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  • What constitutes a "Flow" ??

    Random question...

    Does anybody know what the term "Flow" means in relation to Adirondack bodies of water?

    (ie. Bog River Flow, Cedar Flow, Kings Flow, Goodnow Flow, Flowed Lands, etc.)

    Is there any rhyme or reason to it?

  • #2
    Seems to me all of those have man made impediments...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by stripperguy View Post
      Seems to me all of those have man made impediments...
      Generally left over from the logging runs down the rivers. Letting them out provided the flow to move the logs.
      'I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion.' - Henry David Thoreau

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      • #4
        hmm, makes sense.

        there seem to be some rather interesting and haphazard naming conventions up there at times. haha

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        • #5
          I thought it was kinda like Keith said, where a river or creek had been dammed into a lake, probably from logging operations.

          Look at Cranberry Lake for example, you'll see where there are lots of 'flows' on the edges of the the Lake. All those connect to a creek of the same name. I assume when they flooded that area they kept those names to indicate what was a man-made water body from those sources. I believe the lake itself was there somewhere in the middle but much smaller but I've not been able to find any historical maps showing the original lake.

          Others are just swellings of rivers or streams due to dams either by beavers or man.

          On a side note, if anyone knows where I might find a map showing the original shoreline of Cranberry lake, please let me know!

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          • #6
            What??? , like some "ponds" that are larger than lakes, and some "lakes" that are smaller then ponds, or at least one Ocean( Grizzle Ocean), which is smaller then most of either? The good news is, that you can usually narrow down what you are talking about by mentioning if it is near deer pond or black creek.

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            • #7
              I believe it is basically a pond with current, thus the term "flow" or "flowage"
              Life's short, hunt hard!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by montcalm View Post
                On a side note, if anyone knows where I might find a map showing the original shoreline of Cranberry lake, please let me know!
                That's going to be be a tough one to find. The lake was originally dammed in the 1860's.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by montcalm View Post
                  On a side note, if anyone knows where I might find a map showing the original shoreline of Cranberry lake, please let me know!
                  Originally posted by dundee View Post
                  That's going to be be a tough one to find. The lake was originally dammed in the 1860's.
                  The original lake doubled to its current size in 1867 with the construction of a log crib dam for flow, navigation , and hydraulic power control. A concrete dam replaced the crib in 1916.

                  I don't know the exact height of the first dam nor the current dam, but by following the existing 20 foot depth contour line, we arrive at the following; what the shape of the shoreline may have looked like during the Civil War and perhaps many millennia prior (while obviously disregarding the tireless efforts of the ancient giant beavers Castoroides, who may have died out about 10,000 years ago along with the mammoths, mastodons, ice-age horses, and other megafauna:

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                  • #10
                    I always interpreted "flow" as "flooded lands". Specifically, flooded by man. Although I've also heard some beaver ponds referred to as flows.
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                    • #11
                      Whoa! Thanks.

                      Looks kind of similar to the 1876, but obviously the dam was there:



                      Interestingly enough dead creek flow is not shown - so maybe that flooded with the concrete dam later on... or the map is terribly inaccurate.

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                      • #12
                        There's also "The Floe" on the South Branch West Canada Creek, which I think once had a dam at Mountain Home.

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                        • #13
                          confusing?

                          I once paddled up the Quebec "brook" to where the Onion "river" flowed into it. Sure was pretty though.
                          Turtle

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                          • #14
                            Just do what Newcomb did and name the old logging dam Goodnow Flow
                            "Now he walks in quiet solitude the forest and the streams
                            Seeking grace in every step he takes
                            His sight has turned inside himself to try and understand
                            The serenity of a clear blue mountain lake" -John Denver

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by montcalm View Post
                              Whoa! Thanks.

                              Looks kind of similar to the 1876, but obviously the dam was there:
                              Dam may not have been near as high back then....just high enough to create a small flow there just south of Deer Pond!

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