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pigpen 08-23-2018 09:27 PM

Stay off the road
 
Seriously. Way to many close calls this summer around blind corners. Kindly stay on the shoulder before you really hurt or kill someone trying to avoid you. Thanks. My heart jumped hard for my kid today and i've bit my tongue for too long. Please use your head.

pigpen 08-23-2018 09:30 PM

obviously not directed at the whole community, but for those who think this is ok. It's not.

adkman12986 08-24-2018 10:16 AM

Nearly hit someone last week DOT needs to place warning signs about the trail heads and people need to use caution when walking out from between cars parked on the roadsides

pigpen 08-24-2018 12:15 PM

So true- its kinda sad that squirrels have more sense than a lot of people on roadways.

mt.runner 08-29-2018 09:52 PM

Maybe you should review traffic law that applies to bicyclists...we can use the road.

JohnnyVirgil 08-29-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mt.runner (Post 269838)
Maybe you should review traffic law that applies to bicyclists...we can use the road.

I might be wrong, but I think heís referring to oblivious pedestrians...

adkman12986 08-30-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mt.runner (Post 269838)
Maybe you should review traffic law that applies to bicyclists...we can use the road.

Maybe a little common courtesy on both parts would work.

bmike-vt 08-30-2018 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pigpen (Post 269676)
Seriously. Way to many close calls this summer around blind corners. Kindly stay on the shoulder before you really hurt or kill someone trying to avoid you. Thanks. My heart jumped hard for my kid today and i've bit my tongue for too long. Please use your head.

If you might hit something in the road when negotiating a Ďblindí corner you are driving too fast for conditions. Could be a moose, broken down car, fallen tree, trooper, or cyclists.

Itís ok to slow down - itís the best thing you could do for your kid and for you and for your fellow road users - far more effective than concern trolling a forum. You donít need to drive at the limit - the speed limit is just that - a limit, not a mandate.

bmike-vt 08-30-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pigpen (Post 269704)
So true- its kinda sad that squirrels have more sense than a lot of people on roadways.

Like humans who operate motor vehicles?

webby459 08-30-2018 10:09 AM

bmike-vt - wow, you've posted almost verbatim what I was going to post (the bit about slowing down, sorry I can't quote behind proxy). :thumbs:

Lucky13 08-30-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by adkman12986 (Post 269696)
Nearly hit someone last week DOT needs to place warning signs about the trail heads and people need to use caution when walking out from between cars parked on the roadsides

You will definitely want to be on your toes if you drive through Old Forge or Inlet!:clap:

Zach 08-30-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bmike-vt (Post 269843)
If you might hit something in the road when negotiating a Ďblindí corner you are driving too fast for conditions. Could be a moose, broken down car, fallen tree, trooper, or cyclists.

Itís ok to slow down - itís the best thing you could do for your kid and for you and for your fellow road users - far more effective than concern trolling a forum. You donít need to drive at the limit - the speed limit is just that - a limit, not a mandate.

Thank you bmike-vt, what you said is perfect. I have not taken a defensive driving class but I have always had the impression that one of the first principles is to be able to stop in the road you can see in front of you. My understanding is that bicycles are supposed to follow the FRAP(Far Right As Practical) rule, and I do when I'm riding but some roads don't have paved shoulders and that puts you in the travel lane. My canoe trailer is nearly 4 feet wide, so that puts it partly in the travel lane on most secondary roads, even if they have a shoulder of some kind. Around here we have had lots of Amish buggies since about 10 years ago, and that does seem to help people to learn to expect that there may be slower moving things in the road that they will have to watch for.
Zach

montcalm 08-30-2018 05:18 PM

AHahahaha! Cyclists running cars off the road!

Only on the internet.

pigpen 08-30-2018 09:22 PM

Who said off the road? and trolling? When there are 5 bikes in the road and i am driving the speed limit coming around a sharp left curve in the road and an oncoming tractor trailer is a foot away from me as i avoid you, that is trolling?

pigpen 08-30-2018 09:30 PM

i would like it if certain people would exercise common sense thats all. Maybe these incidents were too isolated to convey frustration on an internet forum.

bmike-vt 08-30-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pigpen (Post 269870)
i would like it if certain people would exercise common sense thats all. Maybe these incidents were too isolated to convey frustration on an internet forum.

Drivers.... could use some common sense too. Especially ones that might be coming around a curve that they canít see around...

Instead of passing cyclists on a curve you could wait for a view of the road ahead, to see that it is safe to proceed, and then do so.

No one is forcing you to pass right at that moment. Pass when safe to do so, no matter how many cyclists were riding in a group - because if it was a tractor, buggy, trooper, ambulance, etc - I doubt you would be on a forum complaining about it.

bmike-vt 08-30-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pigpen (Post 269869)
Who said off the road? and trolling? When there are 5 bikes in the road and i am driving the speed limit coming around a sharp left curve in the road and an oncoming tractor trailer is a foot away from me as i avoid you, that is trolling?

It sounds like unsafe operation to me. Slow down, pass when it is safe to do so.

Wldrns 08-30-2018 11:51 PM

Whether I am driving in a car or riding a bike with a car coming up behind me, I can't believe the how often I find myself in the chance meeting of a following car, a bicycle, and an oncoming truck, just as the bike reaches a narrow bridge. I've pedaled many times on open miles of remote little traveled rural roads, not having seen a single vehicle in several miles and this confluence always seems to happen one time or another during the ride. What are the chances?

bmike-vt 08-31-2018 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wldrns (Post 269875)
Whether I am driving in a car or riding a bike with a car coming up behind me, I can't believe the how often I find myself in the chance meeting of a following car, a bicycle, and an oncoming truck, just as the bike reaches a narrow bridge. I've pedaled many times on open miles of remote little traveled rural roads, not having seen a single vehicle in several miles and this confluence always seems to happen one time or another during the ride. What are the chances?

Always happens - on many many miles behind the wheel and pedaling two wheels - seems that narrow lanes, bridges, turns are magnets for meeting...

Buckladd 08-31-2018 06:28 AM

This topic has been discussed before:
http://www.adkforum.com/showthread.php?t=23127


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