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Neil 05-16-2016 01:17 PM

Tree identification quiz.
 
How many can you ID?
A couple are represented twice.
http://adkhighpeaks.com/neil/outdoor...ees/index.html
Clicking on the full-size images links to the next in the series.

Schultzz 05-16-2016 02:25 PM

Some people are barking up the wrong tree. :)
This quest was NOT treemendously difficult.

DSettahr 05-16-2016 04:03 PM

#1 Fraxinus americana
#2 Pretty sure it is a Picea, probably Picea rubens but could be Picea mariana
#3 Fraxinus americana
#4 Tsuga canadensis
#5 Tsuga canadensis
#6 Betula papyrifera
#7 Betula papyrifera
#8 Ostrya virginiana
#9 Thuja occidentalis
#10 Probably also a Picea, again going with Picea rubens but could be Picea mariana
#11 Betula alleghaniensis
#12 Fraxinus americana

Not 100% sure on all of these but pretty sure on most of them.

Neil 05-16-2016 04:11 PM

If you google Fraxinus and Acer sacharum and look at the bark you'll see they can be fairly similar. I thought #3 was Fraxinus too but now I'm not so sure. There is only one Tsuga in the lot AFAIK.

I thought #1 was most likely an Acer rubrum (Red Maple). I had some help from leaves on the ground. :-)

There are two Hemlocks.

Zach 05-16-2016 04:23 PM

#1 is very ambiguous looking (to me). My first guess is White Ash since we have some here that have done something like that. If I was in the woods and needed to identify that tree before cutting it I would look at the pattern of the branches. White ash and maple of any kind have very distinct branch differences from each other. I often end up having to look at the whole tree, in the woods, or if someone brings me a log to saw and they want to know what it is I can tell once I open it up.
Zach

DSettahr 05-16-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 245541)
If you google Fraxinus and Acer sacharum and look at the bark you'll see they can be fairly similar. I thought #3 was Fraxinus too but now I'm not so sure. There is only one Tsuga in the lot AFAIK.

I thought #1 was most likely an Acer rubrum (Red Maple). I had some help from leaves on the ground. :-)

There are two Hemlocks.

Only one Tsuga but two hemlocks?

I don't think any of those are maples. Sugar maple can become furrowed with age but it is never that regular. And sugar maple would be unusual to find at a higher elevation on a mountain. Red maple never gets that deeply furrowed.

White ash leaves tend to decompose quickly and aren't visible by spring.

Did you happen to take any photos of the branches? With a clear photo, it would be pretty clear from a glance whether they were ashes or maples.

Neil 05-16-2016 04:43 PM

Elevation was about 1500 feet. There were lots of Maple leaves on the ground.

I only have the bark photos.
The clues to the Hemlocks (I think) are the reddish tinge to the bark. One is a young Hemlock , which at first I thought was a Red Spruce until I saw the needles.

DSettahr 05-16-2016 04:58 PM

I meant the confusion about there being only "one Tsuga" but "two hemlocks." Tsuga is the hemlock genus, so I am still a bit confused by this.

I'm sure there were maples growing in the area. I'm sticking with ash for #1, #3, and #12, though. The characteristic interlacing, even spacing, and deepness of the furrows just screams ash.

#12 could possibly be Quercus rubra, but that would be a little bit of a stretch in terms of both the bark characteristics and the spatial distribution of the species (although not impossible).

Neil 05-16-2016 05:07 PM

Ash for #1 seems a stretch, but you know way more than I do!
I didn't realize that Hemlock is Tsuga sp. I was wondering what you were smoking.
I suspect #10 is a Hemlock (based on the needles).

I don't know about #2 although Picea makes most sense.

DSettahr 05-16-2016 05:14 PM

#10 was the one I was least sure on. I wouldn't doubt that it was a hemlock. #4 and #5 appear to be hemlocks as well.

As a general rule (and with the exception of a few species with distinct characteristics), I usually don't base tree ID on bark alone- there is just too much variability, and some species that are just too similar to be sure.

Neil 05-16-2016 05:39 PM

5 is a Red Pine.

DSettahr 05-16-2016 06:06 PM

It could be. Something about that bark doesn't seem quite right. Do you have uncropped versions of these photos?

dundee 05-17-2016 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSettahr (Post 245539)
#1 Fraxinus americana
#2 Pretty sure it is a Picea, probably Picea rubens but could be Picea mariana
#3 Fraxinus americana
#4 Tsuga canadensis
#5 Tsuga canadensis
#6 Betula papyrifera
#7 Betula papyrifera
#8 Ostrya virginiana
#9 Thuja occidentalis
#10 Probably also a Picea, again going with Picea rubens but could be Picea mariana
#11 Betula alleghaniensis
#12 Fraxinus americana

Not 100% sure on all of these but pretty sure on most of them.


They're all Latin to me! ;)

dundee 05-17-2016 12:23 PM

1 White Pine
2 Ginko
3 Tree of Heaven
4 Joshua
5 redwood
6 Sequoia
7 Dogwood ( you can tell by the bark)
8 Chestnut
9 Mulberry
10 American Elm
11 Bald Cypress
12 Sugar Pine

How many did I get right?

Neil 05-17-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dundee (Post 245594)
1 White Pine
2 Ginko
3 Tree of Heaven
4 Joshua
5 redwood
6 Sequoia
7 Dogwood ( you can tell by the bark)
8 Chestnut
9 Mulberry
10 American Elm
11 Bald Cypress
12 Sugar Pine

How many did I get right?

:rolling:

dundee 05-17-2016 03:04 PM

I forgot...Son of a Beech. There were 13 trees, right?

Neil 05-17-2016 04:15 PM

Here are my "guesses":
  1. Red maple
  2. Red Spruce
  3. Ash or Sugar Maple
  4. Hemlock
  5. Red Pine
  6. Yellow Birch
  7. Grey Birch (easy for me because I saw the whole tree)
  8. Hophornbeam AKA Iron Wood, Hardhack
  9. Cedar
  10. Young Hemlock (the trunk was about 3-4 inches diam.)
  11. Yellow Birch
  12. Ash or Sugar maple

DSettahr 05-17-2016 04:17 PM

You're missing one from your list... I think you skipped over #4.

Neil 05-17-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSettahr (Post 245604)
You're missing one from your list... I think you skipped over #4.

Caught it while you were posting.

Zach 05-17-2016 04:35 PM

#3 and #12 are definitely ash in my mind based on the photos. They are both classic ash bark pattern, and while I could imagine that there are maples with bark like that I have not seen them.
Zach


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