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Old 11-15-2018, 01:47 PM   #21
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He needs to have a talk with Eric Schlimmer!
Yes! I was thinking the exact same thing.

Food for thought: Mr Morris's short story is representative of a shift from reporting the facts of a failure, which benefits users by highlighting planning and preparedness weak spots, to glorifying the art of surviving one's own poor decision making. I have observed this time and again in ski movies. As the industry pushes for bigger, more consequential terrain and footage, there is an increased glorification of the close calls, namely triggering massive avalanches (in ski movies). Neither story adequately portrays the true risk of making poor decisions and being unprepared, and, unfortunately, it draws incompetent "adventure-seekers" down the same road, trail, or skin track. The compelling short stories and movies ought to promote well-informed, critical decision making and preparedness. When it comes to near misses, or utter failure, all one needs is the facts and the short, technical commentary that instills an adequate respect for the consequence of wilderness and draws people to pursue adequate knowledge to enjoy the wilderness and get back to one's VW beetle safe and sound.

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Old 11-15-2018, 05:54 PM   #22
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"Aaron Ralston worship" started this ball rolling. Copycats can be expected. Most of them will be smart enough to not have to cut off their own arm...
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:03 PM   #23
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Speaking of rescuing unprepared hikers...
God bless our NYS Rangers!

Unprepared hiker rescued from Mt. Marcy
In short: "Put your shoes and socks back on, you moron, and start walking!"

And yes, downstream just about anywhere in Dix Wilderness gets you to 73 or another highway.

Just dumb, and I do wish there were some repercussions beyond internet shaming for this kind of idiocy.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:16 PM   #24
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:23 PM   #25
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In short: "Put your shoes and socks back on, you moron, and start walking!"...

Just dumb, and I do wish there were some repercussions beyond internet shaming for this kind of idiocy.
Agreed, and my biggest concern is that hypothermia sets in pretty quick, where people have been known to begin removing articles of clothing (including their footwear), and become disoriented. Glad this story turned out with a positive ending. Again, kudos to the Rangers...another couple of hours later it may have ended differently.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:53 AM   #26
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Oh god... I can't believe this guy is back telling this story again.

I won't rehash what others have posted re: this incident above but will remind everybody of the humorous follow-up to his adventure less than a week after his rescue:

My post on the High Peaks forum 8/28/18...
"He did the whole Dix range again just a few days ago... via the same herdpath!! And he got lost again!!! This time he went Grace, SDix, Macomb and upon retracing back toward SDix on his way to Hough he mistakenly dropped down the Lillian Brook herdpath from the Macomb/SDix col and ended up at the junction. Another hiker pointed him in the right direction and he had to reascend the elevation he lost by heading up the northern arm of the Lillian Brook herdpath back to the ridge. He then finished the last two and exited via Round Pond though the end point of his GPS track on AllTrails stops short of Rte 73 yet again. He posted a pic on FB of him with a map and compass but still somehow managed to confuse the Macomb/SDix col with the summit of SDix and went in the totally wrong direction to get to Hough. Find his FB page and read the long post about his day. Lots of pics posted too."
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:18 PM   #27
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Well, there are always plenty of nuts and self promoters out there.

What is disappointing is that EMS is headlining this. I remember when they were a reputable gear shop. Apparently now, they are either suckers, or they think that their customers are suckers. Sad.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:35 PM   #28
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Apparently now, they are either suckers, or they think that their customers are suckers. [/QUOTE]

Or both, who knows?
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:49 AM   #29
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I might be on my way but it's not a priority, so whenever people pressure me to work harder to be a 46er I point out that there are people like this guy who are ahead of me.
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:59 PM   #30
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To me this so-called adventurer is a complete sham. He's looking for a story and goes to great lengths to get. He claims to know enough about hiking. He explains the details of herd trails, cairns and making a fire from birch trees, but yet ignores all his common senses of being prepared and not following the group of women down. He gets "lost" only to be rescued nearby a watering hole. This is about as shameless as it gets, but its not surprising, especially from a writer.
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:13 PM   #31
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...especially from a writer.
Not a very good one...
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