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Old 12-20-2017, 09:15 PM   #41
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It burns pretty fast, guessing on needing 6-7 bundles for the 3 days.
It's amazing how much wood is needed to stay warm and do some cooking on the stove. I hope one day to go on a trip into Canada and see how they cut down standing dead wood.

Been thinking also about bathroom situation... last time on a holiday weekend the port o johns at the LOJ were disgusting. Hope they are cleaner this time, might have a plan in the works.
Coldfeet... Next week I'll be pitching my tent next to this stash. It's been seasoned over a year now and should last 4-5 days easy.

As far as the Port-a-John's go. The winter camping classic book Paradise Below Zero by Calvin Rutstrum:

Page 18 "... explaining how they might go about most comfortably performing their urgent body functions in sub-zero temperatures and snow that could be waist-deep. A square of turned-up birch bark is used as a receptacle, the function performed in it inside the warm tent, and immediate disposition made in the wood stove. The bark creates a quick hot flame, and with ventilation no factor in a tent, all is sans gene."

I'm looking forward to our February adventure. Cheers, Kelly

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Old 12-21-2017, 06:01 AM   #42
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Nice stash Kelly! Wow, a year old, so cool.

Interesting idea with the bathroom. Thought about those Coleman mini Shower tents that could double as a privy at times with Luggable Loo bucket. Trying not to get to graphic as to make this a "stinky" thread! haha

But really, going to the bathroom in the winter with negative temps is and can be a problem.

Same here for February! Trying to get into "pulling" shape. Gotta go and sit in traffic for 1 1/2 hours now, typical nyc traffic to drive 28 miles
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Old 12-21-2017, 06:46 AM   #43
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I got one of these Coldfeet. It doubles as a stool inside the tent too (no pun intended). I haven't had the courage to try Kelly's method with the stove yet but I know a lot of experienced hot tenters use that method. Best of luck! The learning is half the fun!

https://www.rei.com/product/662980/c...BoCi9gQAvD_BwE
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Old 12-21-2017, 11:20 AM   #44
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Paul, nice. I probably should have bought that one but I didnít think of it. Saw the Lugabble Lou one at Campmore and my wife insisted.

I know itís not the easiest at times to set up a gathering but it would be nice to try. I saw a state park that is near Cooperstown that is open for car camping. Forgot the name. They have like 2-3 spots. Makes it easier for some.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:17 PM   #45
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Negative temps next week. I will go and test gear, keeping daughter home and warm. Need to wait and make it comfortable. Best to all
I received my zero degree bottom quilt and I am ready to test it out along with a sleeping bag inside the sleeve. Should be a good time.
What time are you planning on bugging out out on Friday? So close to Whiteface, hmmmmmmmm.
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Old 12-21-2017, 05:33 PM   #46
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Coldfeet - I think the park you're thinking of is Glimmerglass State Park. It's just up the lake from Cooperstown and open all year. They have primitive campsites as well as some trails from xc skiing/snowshoeing and also a toboggan run. I live just south of Cooperstown so if I can help you with any planning, just let me know.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time....be well.

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Old 12-21-2017, 09:10 PM   #47
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That's the place Snapper! I spoke to a woman working there a few months ago looking for places to camp. Maybe we can set up a mini gathering one weekend. Talk soon
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:34 AM   #48
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I'm going to confirm with the LOJ about purchasing wood there, usually $7-$8 a bundle if I recall.
I was up Jan 1 '17 and they ran out, or had a staffing issue that prevented them from getting it to us. So we were literally out in the cold w/o fire for a few hours - no biggy, we were cold camping anyway but wer elooking forward to a cheerful warming fire. Since than I buy local on way in or ask on check in.

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last time on a holiday weekend the port o johns at the LOJ were disgusting. Hope they are cleaner this time, might have a plan in the works.
When I winter camp at Loj we like the actual indoor plumbing available at High Peaks Info Center (HPIC). The used to leave back door open 24 hours. Has this changed with the renovated HPIC?
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:38 AM   #49
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Glimmerglass State Park
Camped there with Scouts a few years back. Lean-tos on pond and this open field that had turf over gravel. Rained all night but the ground drained so well never got muddy. Tough on tent stakes though.
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Old 12-22-2017, 03:07 PM   #50
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When I winter camp at Loj we like the actual indoor plumbing available at High Peaks Info Center (HPIC). The used to leave back door open 24 hours. Has this changed with the renovated HPIC?
Tenderfoot. Last year the renovation was going on and those bathrooms were closed.

Iím going to pick up wood on the way also. Now Thursday night temps -14. I have t been out in those temps in at least 7 years.
Fun starting to pack gear. Take care
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Good luck Coldfeet, let us know how it goes. Bring a jump starter for your car! I'll be headed out for the first outing the middle of January. Hopefully it won't be as cold.
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:58 PM   #52
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Good luck Coldfeet, let us know how it goes. Bring a jump starter for your car! I'll be headed out for the first outing the middle of January. Hopefully it won't be as cold.
Need to remember to back the car in just in case. Also bought one of those portable battery chargers and I need to make sure that's charged. I wonder how quickly they loose their charge in cold weather? Guess I'm going to find out.
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Old 12-23-2017, 11:26 PM   #53
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Need to remember to back the car in just in case. Also bought one of those portable battery chargers and I need to make sure that's charged. I wonder how quickly they loose their charge in cold weather? Guess I'm going to find out.
Hey cold feet.

I'm seeing -20 and -24 Wednesday and Thursday nights in Lake Placid. Good luck, stay warm and enjoy yourself! I'm going to stick closer to home. No not tent here.

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Old 12-24-2017, 05:32 PM   #54
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Yep, saw the same temps. It's a no go for me also. I called the LOJ, cancelled my reservations and will go into the Berkshires of MA where it will be a lot warmer, -5F.

Hanging out with family and friends.

Hope to set up a mini gathering one day up in the ADK.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:07 PM   #55
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my overnight winter camping consists of throwing another blanket on my king sized bed and cranking up the thermostat to about 74 degrees !!
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Snowtrekkers.

[QUOTE=camp43;264710]Thanks for the Loj suggestions. I'll check the place out online. I'm about 5 hours out from the Adk Loj as well coming from North Jersey. I definitely want to go where fires are allowed. Winter camping without one is not fun to be. Not only due to the cold but the long nights as well. I don't really want to be I my hammock for 12 hours or more.

On a side note, do any outfitters in the Adirondacks rent hot tent set ups? I inquired with two this morning but probably won't hear back right away.


Here are Snowtrekker rental locations as per their website.
Where to rent Snowtrekkerģ Tents

Lure of the North Outfitting
Espanola, Ontario, Canada (705.586.1226)

Piragis Northwoods
Ely, MN (800.223.6565)

DIRO Outdoors
Stillwater, MN (651.233.6059)

Stone Harbor Wilderness Supply
Grand Marais, MN (218.387.3136)

Sawtooth Outfitters
Tofte, MN (218-663-7643)

Red Lake Outfitters
Red Lake, Ontario (807.727.9797)


Algonquin Basecamp
Emsdale, Ontario (705.783.2005)


Mike Sheffar
London, Ontario (519.870.1313) Mike@spminc.ca


Places to get great gear and information

Black River Sleds

Empire Wool and Canvas Company

Ski Pulks

Winter Trekking
(Online forum for winter campers)
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:13 PM   #57
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Camped at Spectacle Lake

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. I was finally able to make it up to Spectacle Lake in the Ferris Lake Wild Forest. I had a 4 hour ride each way and wanted to get up there before the warmer weather forecast this week. Unfortunately I could only go for one night. We snowshoed in and camped at the southern end of Spectacle Lake. Beautiful area. Hopefully I can make it back up there for more than one night before spring really sets in.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:48 PM   #58
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Nice photos and nice to hear you got out Camp43.

Bioguide-can you tell me anything, like age or manufacturer of that saw and your other handled tools? And is that a modern pack basket?
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Nice! Better to go out one night instead of sitting home dreaming about going out at least one night.
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:05 PM   #60
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Bioguide-can you tell me anything, like age or manufacturer of that saw and your other handled tools? And is that a modern pack basket?
I have 2 saws. The one in the photo is a 5' Disston champion tooth pattern and I have a 3' Disston with the same pattern. I don't know the ages of them but they are "old". The pack basket is modern. Here is a video I did of my kit:

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