Debar Mt and Northern NY conditions

Hoser · 04-04-2018, 12:24 PM

Hearing no snow on the ground in Potsdam and heavy rain here in the SW corner of the Park. Given the rain next 24 hours and the hard freeze, looking at Debar this weekend, on spikes. Anyone been up that way recently and can report on conditions (I know its raining and freezing. Dont need a high peaks report, looking specific to this area). Any snow on the ground in the Tupper/Malone/Saranac lake level (under 2000 feet) - Thanks!

bluequill · 04-04-2018, 12:38 PM

Hays Brook area had a foot or more on packed out trails a couple of days ago with more in the open woods. Same conditions yesterday on the Gulf Brook/ Lost Pond/ Hurricane trail in Keene. It's raining now and snow is melting fast in Saranac Lake.

Hoser · 04-04-2018, 12:54 PM

Thanks. Sounds like micros the choice, especially after the next couple of days.

NEranger21 · 04-04-2018, 03:25 PM

Creeks/Rivers are open through Duane and St. Regis Falls. Ponds/Lakes still have ice... Micro spikes/snowshoes will get you through unless you're planning on hiking Furnace or Debar..I'd brink crampons and a mountaineering ax for those, pretty icy as of 3 days ago.

Hoser · 04-04-2018, 03:55 PM

Ice will only get worse next few days....hmm.....need a more gradual trail up a mountain in that area, any suggestions? What does Pinnacle and Owls Head (Franklin county) offer? Already did Tupper Triad

bluequill · 04-04-2018, 11:21 PM

There is St Regis Mt or Jenkins Mt at Paul Smith's also.

FWIW....it is snowing now with 18 degree temps. Snow plows have gone by numerous times this evening.

These past two weeks I have been ok with spikes early in the day but have had to change over to SS's as the snow warmed up and I began to post hole. Pack both.

TCD · 04-05-2018, 11:45 AM

I have not been up it, but Loon Lake Mtn. is another possibility to consider in that area, with the fairly recently re-opened trail.

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Originally Posted by NEranger21

Creeks/Rivers are open through Duane and St. Regis Falls. Ponds/Lakes still have ice... Micro spikes/snowshoes will get you through unless you're planning on hiking Furnace or Debar..I'd brink crampons and a mountaineering ax for those, pretty icy as of 3 days ago.

NERanger21, quick question, and sorry for the thread drift: I've been up Debar, but I'm interested in Furnace. Is there a trail of some sort up Furnace? I am familiar with the network of logging roads that leads from Route 30 over to the east side of Furnace, but is the mountain itself a bushwhack, or is there a trail somewhere?

Hoser · 04-05-2018, 01:43 PM

NP on the drift. Curious on this area. Anyone been up Loon Lake Mt recently? NP with ice just like to avoid some steep ice if that makes sense.

Hoser · 04-05-2018, 04:43 PM

Or Grass Pond?

Hoser · 04-06-2018, 09:00 AM

Or Pinnacle?

NEranger21 · 04-08-2018, 06:28 PM

TCD- Furnace is a bushwhack, unless there is a secret heard path I've yet to find...I usually access it from RedTavern rd, From rte 30, you'll see a recent logging operation and a two landings on the south side of the rd. There's usually a parking spot or two plowed on the N side (thumbs up to Duane Highway Dept)...There's a fair amount of ledges and caves, I personally wouldn't mess with that mountain (as a late winter early spring hike) unless I had rope and 2 partners w/rescue skills..once the snow is gone and you can see all those hazards than I'd hike it solo.

Mutton ridge is a run/easy winter jaunt, and has a couple sneaky views.

Hoser--I haven't seen the trails for Loon, Pinnacle or Grass since that windstorm..All the trail heads are plowed, Grass and Pinnacle are still ski able.

If you get out on any of these, please send me a PM so I have a handle on how much blowdown is out there. Trail clearing time is just around the corner!

TCD · 04-08-2018, 07:41 PM

Thanks, man; plan to go once things dry out in May. The cliffs are actually what I am looking to explore.

Hoser · 04-09-2018, 10:03 AM

Ended up doing Azure on Sunday to keep the equipment to a minimum. Couple inches fresh snow on the way up was down to dirt on the way down. About ten people all day through 1pm (although I know not all signed in). Micros were helpful, almost could have bare booted it. Parking area clear although the Blue Mt road was glad I had AWD and did almost bounce off a couple deer that refused to move. Fantastic lunch at the Deer Valley Trails.

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04-04-2018, 12:24 PM	#1
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Debar Mt and Northern NY conditions Hearing no snow on the ground in Potsdam and heavy rain here in the SW corner of the Park. Given the rain next 24 hours and the hard freeze, looking at Debar this weekend, on spikes. Anyone been up that way recently and can report on conditions (I know its raining and freezing. Dont need a high peaks report, looking specific to this area). Any snow on the ground in the Tupper/Malone/Saranac lake level (under 2000 feet) - Thanks!

04-04-2018, 03:25 PM	#4
NEranger21 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Transient Posts: 58	Creeks/Rivers are open through Duane and St. Regis Falls. Ponds/Lakes still have ice... Micro spikes/snowshoes will get you through unless you're planning on hiking Furnace or Debar..I'd brink crampons and a mountaineering ax for those, pretty icy as of 3 days ago. __________________ “Great things are done when men and mountains meet" -William Blake

04-08-2018, 06:28 PM	#11
NEranger21 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Transient Posts: 58	TCD- Furnace is a bushwhack, unless there is a secret heard path I've yet to find...I usually access it from RedTavern rd, From rte 30, you'll see a recent logging operation and a two landings on the south side of the rd. There's usually a parking spot or two plowed on the N side (thumbs up to Duane Highway Dept)...There's a fair amount of ledges and caves, I personally wouldn't mess with that mountain (as a late winter early spring hike) unless I had rope and 2 partners w/rescue skills..once the snow is gone and you can see all those hazards than I'd hike it solo. Mutton ridge is a run/easy winter jaunt, and has a couple sneaky views. Hoser--I haven't seen the trails for Loon, Pinnacle or Grass since that windstorm..All the trail heads are plowed, Grass and Pinnacle are still ski able. If you get out on any of these, please send me a PM so I have a handle on how much blowdown is out there. Trail clearing time is just around the corner! __________________ “Great things are done when men and mountains meet" -William Blake

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04-04-2018, 12:38 PM	#2
bluequill Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Keene Posts: 790	Hays Brook area had a foot or more on packed out trails a couple of days ago with more in the open woods. Same conditions yesterday on the Gulf Brook/ Lost Pond/ Hurricane trail in Keene. It's raining now and snow is melting fast in Saranac Lake.

04-04-2018, 12:54 PM	#3
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Thanks. Sounds like micros the choice, especially after the next couple of days.

04-04-2018, 03:55 PM	#5
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Ice will only get worse next few days....hmm.....need a more gradual trail up a mountain in that area, any suggestions? What does Pinnacle and Owls Head (Franklin county) offer? Already did Tupper Triad

04-04-2018, 11:21 PM	#6
bluequill Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Keene Posts: 790	There is St Regis Mt or Jenkins Mt at Paul Smith's also. FWIW....it is snowing now with 18 degree temps. Snow plows have gone by numerous times this evening. These past two weeks I have been ok with spikes early in the day but have had to change over to SS's as the snow warmed up and I began to post hole. Pack both.

04-05-2018, 01:43 PM	#8
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	NP on the drift. Curious on this area. Anyone been up Loon Lake Mt recently? NP with ice just like to avoid some steep ice if that makes sense.

04-05-2018, 04:43 PM	#9
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Or Grass Pond?

04-06-2018, 09:00 AM	#10
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Or Pinnacle?

04-08-2018, 07:41 PM	#12
TCD Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,789	Thanks, man; plan to go once things dry out in May. The cliffs are actually what I am looking to explore.

04-09-2018, 10:03 AM	#13
Hoser Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 68	Ended up doing Azure on Sunday to keep the equipment to a minimum. Couple inches fresh snow on the way up was down to dirt on the way down. About ten people all day through 1pm (although I know not all signed in). Micros were helpful, almost could have bare booted it. Parking area clear although the Blue Mt road was glad I had AWD and did almost bounce off a couple deer that refused to move. Fantastic lunch at the Deer Valley Trails.

04-11-2018, 03:12 PM	#14
equyst Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 14	Loving this thread! sub'd

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