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Old 09-02-2019, 04:18 PM   #1
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Thefts Moose River plains

Hello to all. Just want to spread the word that our friends entire campsite was stolen a couple weeks back in Moose River plains area while they were out hiking. Even stole thier porta potty. So caution. And if you know who is doing these thefts please,please notify the Inlet police. Thanks
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Old 09-02-2019, 05:20 PM   #2
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Lousy.
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Old 09-02-2019, 06:49 PM   #3
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Thanks for the heads up. I was just there a week ago. Were they camped on Cedar River Road? Most of the sites are visible from the road.
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:10 PM   #4
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My thanks too for the heads up. I was on the CRF this past weekend and drove through the Plains on the way out. I was thinking of about camping and dayhiking dome of the trails in the future. I guess I'll re-think that idea...
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Old 09-03-2019, 07:52 AM   #5
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Man, people are scum sometimes. I think about this every time I leave my campsite, even though I don't car camp. All that gear just sitting there for the taking..and call me paranoid, but when I canoe camp, I always drag my canoe up near the tent and stick the paddles somewhere else.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:23 AM   #6
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Wouldn’t you just love to catch someone in the act?
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Old 09-03-2019, 10:34 AM   #7
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While late season camping back there many years ago, I encountered a bear hunter coming out of the Otter Brook Truck Trail. We got talking about his sidearm, a .357 mag, and he told me that he worked for the Sheriff in Westchester. He asked me about my lack of a sidearm (trout season was still open, I was fishing), and I explained that I was not concerned enough about the 4 legged predators in the Plains to carry a firearm. He said he was not worried about the 4 legged predators, rather the two legged ones.

I have a hard enough time finding a place to keep all the "junk" I use when camping, I can't imagine what a thief was thinking in terms of resale, etc, most of this stuff even the good stuff can be purchased from legitimate sellers from Craig's list at 10 cents on the dollar if you watch it long enough.

If someone came to my campsite when I' was off, they could take the tent and air mattress, sleeping bag that is in the tent, and the tarp and bungies, maybe tools like an ax and shovel, and a dry wall pail or two. Everything else is locked in the back of the truck under tarps when not in use. On one daytrip in early August, we saw three campsites where the people were off, and the cooler was left out on the picnic table. There are some 4 legged predators that relish finding those sites, and then they get less usable for others later.

Justin, how about you give them a chance to keep up with the truck you've tied their hands to the back of, as you haul them out to Inlet to meet the Barneys! Maximum allowable (street legal) speed is 15 mph!
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:03 AM   #8
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Sucks that this happened. I do find it curious that the OP created an account to post this, but maybe it'll be the first of many posts sharing hopefully more positive experiences.

On the ideas above of catching them in the act or exacting backcountry justice, I'd actually prefer not to. I figure there are only a few reasons for people to want to take my stinky old gear. One distinct reason is that someone feels they really need it, and if that's the case they can have it. Stuff I'd really *NEED* to survive, like some food to make it back to a trailhead, water, my car key, navigation, first aid, a knife, flashlight, etc are going to be on my back anyway.

The other reasons are that some people are kleptos or vandals, and I don't feel the need to act as their therapist, priest or the justice system when I'm out enjoying myself. Maybe if karma is a thing they'll get their due.

Ideas like these make me respect what our rangers and foresters do all the more. They not only have to save our sorry butts when we get in over our heads in all the elements, as well as deal with those elements themselves while protecting the wild, they also have to serve as the proxy for the theoretically more civilized justice systems that's in place, whether urban or rural.
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:26 AM   #9
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Sucks that this happened. I do find it curious that the OP created an account to post this, but maybe it'll be the first of many posts sharing hopefully more positive experiences.

On the ideas above of catching them in the act or exacting backcountry justice, I'd actually prefer not to. I figure there are only a few reasons for people to want to take my stinky old gear. One distinct reason is that someone feels they really need it, and if that's the case they can have it. Stuff I'd really *NEED* to survive, like some food to make it back to a trailhead, water, my car key, navigation, first aid, a knife, flashlight, etc are going to be on my back anyway.

The other reasons are that some people are kleptos or vandals, and I don't feel the need to act as their therapist, priest or the justice system when I'm out enjoying myself. Maybe if karma is a thing they'll get their due.

Ideas like these make me respect what our rangers and foresters do all the more. They not only have to save our sorry butts when we get in over our heads in all the elements, as well as deal with those elements themselves while protecting the wild, they also have to serve as the proxy for the theoretically more civilized justice systems that's in place, whether urban or rural.
time to invest in a game camera to watch my stuff while I'm gone.
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:41 AM   #10
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JohnnyV, maybe we'll finally discover that the 'squach was really just tryin to find the best IPA in the land!
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:24 PM   #11
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time to invest in a game camera to watch my stuff while I'm gone.
I was just thinking about this. I hate to leave my truck at an access site with stuff in the bed that I need to get my boat home. I thought of putting a trail cam out to watch the truck, not that it would actually prevent a theft. But then I thought that someone would likely see the camera and steal it, so I would need a camera to watch the camera. You see where this is going.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:27 PM   #12
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many years ago I backpacked the highest peaks in Montana. Had the one care at the end of the trail and drove back to start the trip with 5 others. All of us were there initially on an 8 week field camp from Princeton University studying to be Geologists. Well after about a 2 week hike we come to the car we had left to take us back and wouldn't you know: the car was broken in to and the 8 track/radio was stolen. (ok, so I date myself). thought it was kind of funny , being in the middle of nowhere and all.
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:01 PM   #13
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Some people just can't resist grabbing anything that isn't nailed down. I carry all the time on outings, discreetly. 'Never had any problems, but I'm not getting any younger, and there's more people out there now than ever.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:13 PM   #14
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I was just thinking about this. I hate to leave my truck at an access site with stuff in the bed that I need to get my boat home. I thought of putting a trail cam out to watch the truck, not that it would actually prevent a theft. But then I thought that someone would likely see the camera and steal it, so I would need a camera to watch the camera. You see where this is going.
A hunter probably has no problem spotting game cameras -- but you'd be surprised how oblivious most people are in the woods (or maybe you wouldn't be.) A friend of mine has a gray camo game cam at eye level on a grey barked tree not much wider than the camera itself. The tree is about 15 feet away from his lean to. He put it up because he wanted to see the bears that were chewing on the ends. Multiple times he's watched couples and even entire families complete with the family dog have picnics right in his lean-to even though it's posted. Not one of them has even glanced at the camera, let alone tried to pry it off the tree. So far, anyway.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:57 PM   #15
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The only time I’ve had things stolen from my campsite was at a music festival, where there tends to be a very small portion of sketchy folks who aren’t there for the same reasons as you are. Since then I’ve starting using luggage locks on my tents, keeping valuables in my truck, and leaving an occasional note displaying that they are being watched. Not exactly a fool proof deterrent but haven’t had any issues since as of yet. Granted I don’t camp in the MRP much.
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:28 PM   #16
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An old trick some used to identify thieves was in the autumn one would run their roto-tiller through poison ivy and then leave it out for thieves. Soon after, or come springtime, when the tiller blades were cleaned of those old unidentifiable vines if the thieve was local he was easily identified!
How you'd use this for camp goods I'm not sure but its something to think about.
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How you'd use this for camp goods I'm not sure but its something to think about.
Gunpowder in a stick of firewood was another old timer's trick for firewood theives. The perpetrator would be buying a new wood stove.
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Gunpowder in a stick of firewood was another old timer's trick for firewood theives. The perpetrator would be buying a new wood stove.
Yep, I heard of that, even something like a cherry bomb would work. Scare the hell out of them and blow the stove door open probably would teach them a lesson.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:34 PM   #19
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People who steal from others are sociopaths with no conscience or care of what's right or wrong. Hide a game camera where license plates can be seen. They will get a big surprise when a knock comes at their door. State law enforcement love to catch thieves.
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Old 09-06-2019, 12:28 PM   #20
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I'm going to change directions here. Years ago I backpacked into Tirrell Pond. I met a young guy when I got there (actually I was young too back then come to think of it!!!), and we were sharing the lean to. At one point I let him see my new compass I had just bought and he liked it a lot. One thing or another and somehow he kept the compass. When I backpacked out to my car, there was my compass attached to the door handle with a note apologizing for not having given it back to me at camp. He knew I was from Ohio and my car was the only one in the parking lot with Ohio plates.
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