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Old 02-26-2017, 09:49 AM   #1
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Trail resgisters

I know this topic has come up in discussion on several threads, but I couldn't find one dedicated to it.

When I go out into the woods, even in a local park, I'm pretty good about signing into the trail registers. I know there's an issue about DEC not collecting or reporting the data on some trailheads. While that's important, I think the main reason I sign in is in case something happens, the SAR crews will have an idea where to start looking for me.

One of the things that cheeses me off when it comes to trail registers are the "snowflakes" who feel the need to sign in anywhere but the next line down in the book. Skip a couple pages, use the back page, write upside down, etc.

On a recent hike in the Pharaoh Lake Wilderness, Tredhed and I came across this trail register with a pretty firm statement by the rangers.



The pages date back to Oct, 2016. So far, everyone's been good about it. We'll see how long it lasts.
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Old 02-26-2017, 10:37 AM   #2
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I saw the same note at the Crane Mt. trailhead a few weeks ago, that and pages obviously torn out?!
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:09 AM   #3
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Lots of anti-establishment type jerks out there who just seem to enjoy being A-holes & like to make things a pain in the neck for everyone else but themselves. Others just don't seem to have a clue about proper etiquette when visiting public trails & waterways.

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Old 02-28-2017, 01:35 PM   #4
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The problem with public trails & waterways is they allow the public! I say that a bit tongue in cheek but I've experienced a lot of issues over the years with folks who would fit into Justin's definition seen above. The worst part is trying to talk with them. For some folks it just doesn't matter how nicely you approach them, they don't give a dam. I remember one guy, who I asked if they couldn't stop bathing in the river with soap (we were camping there and needed the water supply) gave me a lecture on how his grandfather had done it, his father had done it and now it was his turn so we could all go to "H-E double L hockey sticks"; except he didn't say H-E double L hockey sticks.

OK, sorry for the thread drift but it kind of fits.

Take care and until next time...be well.

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Old 02-28-2017, 04:24 PM   #5
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I can't say I've seen much of this sort of silliness in the High Peaks registers. On occasion I might see a skipped page or someone started a new one when the previous one had 3-4 lines left. No big deal.

What I have noticed is some people don't fill in all the requested information. For example, just this past Sunday, I noticed a few folks overlooked to add their destination or used illegible handwriting. Perhaps they have a limited understanding of the register's purpose.

If the DEC receives a call indicating you are overdue, they'll check the register. If your name and phone number are in Sanskrit, or your destination is blank, you aren't helping the rangers find you.
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Old 02-28-2017, 07:18 PM   #6
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Over the years I've also noticed that during the big game hunting season, many people don't even bother to sign in the register to let others know where they're hunting, even though the parking area is full with pickup trucks. Yet they get heated when someone bushwhacking with a dog accidentally intrudes on their hunt.

That has happened to me several times, but if I had seen in the register that someone was hunting in the area, I probably would've reconsidered venturing into that area in the first place.

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Old 03-01-2017, 07:51 AM   #7
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Since I re-started hiking five years ago, I've seen a few registers that have been desecrated by various parties. One had fresh bullet holes in it (going back to Justin's comments). Another had the book ripped in half and all the pages torn/burned out with the post having been axed rather severely.

Here's a couple more trail register photos from the Pharaoh Lake area.

Berrymill Pond



Pharaoh Lake outlet



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Old 03-01-2017, 01:51 PM   #8
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If the DEC receives a call indicating you are overdue, they'll check the register. If your name and phone number are in Sanskrit, or your destination is blank, you aren't helping the rangers find you.
In addition to what snapper mentions (which makes some sense in a school or similar type group, since one doesn't know who might see that information and what they might try to do with it), there are likely still some people who don't carry phones while hiking. If that's the case, putting a home phone # wouldn't help much for them to find you (and they might already have such number anyhow if that's where the call came from looking for you).
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For what it's worth, we never begin a school hike without going over why the registers are there, why we should use them and how they can be of help to us if we have an emergency in the woods. Most of the students get it but there will always be a few who don't seem to care. That being said, the one thing I don't encourage is for them to put down their phone numbers. I can't remember when that request actually started but I'm just not going to leave myself open like that. I do explain how they can enter the Ranger's phone number into their phone as it's posted with the sign-in book or at the kiosk that goes with the registration book. If they need to contact the Ranger, you can be sure they will then have your phone number.

That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well.

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Hikers receiving calls from strangers who collect phone numbers from a trail register.

Is that even a thing???


FYI, if your name is in the register, a quick Google search is liable to reveal a crapton more about you than just a phone number. As for teenagers and young adults, they're more likely to attract unwanted attention via their social media accounts.
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The problem with public trails & waterways is they allow the public! I say that a bit tongue in cheek but I've experienced a lot of issues over the years with folks who would fit into Justin's definition seen above. The worst part is trying to talk with them. For some folks it just doesn't matter how nicely you approach them, they don't give a dam. I remember one guy, who I asked if they couldn't stop bathing in the river with soap (we were camping there and needed the water supply) gave me a lecture on how his grandfather had done it, his father had done it and now it was his turn so we could all go to "H-E double L hockey sticks"; except he didn't say H-E double L hockey sticks.

OK, sorry for the thread drift but it kind of fits.

Take care and until next time...be well.

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You do realize that what the local animals do to that water is far worse than what he was doing by bathing in it, right? That's why you purify it, regardless of your camping neighbor's bath habits.

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Some people just want to watch the world burn.
A bit dramatic, don't you think? What does it say about our ADK community that tearing out a few pages and writing some dribble on a trail register now qualifies as a "burning world?"
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Old 03-01-2017, 07:03 PM   #12
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I remember reading in an older thread about trail registers (which ended up getting closed) that mentioned the request for phone numbers was more for if someone went missing, the DEC has some info to maybe ask if they happened to see them, and perhaps establish a "Last known position" LKP.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:24 PM   #13
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I remember reading in an older thread about trail registers (which ended up getting closed) that mentioned the request for phone numbers was more for if someone went missing, the DEC has some info to maybe ask if they happened to see them, and perhaps establish a "Last known position" LKP.
I thought that too.

Also, I thought with your number in the register if you somehow forget to check yourself out, whether absent mindedly or for some other reason, it makes it very easy for a diligent ranger to place a quick phone call to confirm that you are in fact out of the woods and safe. If said ranger was being extra through and cautious, that is (I would never rely on something like that as a fail safe in a true emergency).

FWIW I've always left my number in registers and I've yet to recieve any ill wanted phone calls or heavy breathing hang-ups as a result. At least not to my knowledge. Though I can understand the concern some people may have.
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You do realize that what the local animals do to that water is far worse than what he was doing by bathing in it, right? That's why you purify it, regardless of your camping neighbor's bath habits.
I don't think so. Nature is going to break down a beaver turd much faster than Doc Bronner's soap and Head & Shoulders shampoo. We put a lot of chemicals and perfumes in our soaps
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Hikers receiving calls from strangers who collect phone numbers from a trail register.

Is that even a thing???

Hey, that's how I pick up chicks!
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Hikers receiving calls from strangers who collect phone numbers from a trail register.

Is that even a thing???


FYI, if your name is in the register, a quick Google search is liable to reveal a crapton more about you than just a phone number. As for teenagers and young adults, they're more likely to attract unwanted attention via their social media accounts.
Happened to a friend of mine. He put his number in and happened to be hiking with his wife and the wife of a mutual friend. He got a call from some guy they apparently passed on the trail who was wondering if "the taller girl" might want to (insert sexual euphemism here). My friend threatened the guy with bodily harm if he heard from him or saw him again, reported it to the cops and never put his phone number in a register from that moment on.
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... He got a call from some guy they apparently passed on the trail who was wondering if "the taller girl" might want to (insert sexual euphemism here). ...
The guy you may be looking for goes by the moniker "Dundee". (I'm very much kidding here ... I've never even met him.)


But seriously, where do y'all hike? Central Park?

I've never heard a female member on ADKHighPeaks ever mention receiving such creepy attention in this manner (perhaps they were loathe to share it). There have been other examples of misguided behavior towards women but not of the sexual kind.

The numbskulls who act this way do our gender a disservice. They're also skating on the legal edge of sexual harassment.
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The guy you may be looking for goes by the moniker "Dundee".
Yeah, but I have good taste in women!
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The guy you may be looking for goes by the moniker "Dundee". (I'm very much kidding here ... I've never even met him.)


But seriously, where do y'all hike? Central Park?
Practically. This happened to be on Marcy.
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Practically. This happened to be on Marcy.
Haha! Good one!

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