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Old 09-29-2017, 10:39 AM   #1
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How Much Longer Will The ADK's Support Trout

I find this (as of yesterday) hot weather, this deep into fall disgusting. I cancelled a trip that was supposed to happen last weekend due to blazing sunshine and high 80's (St Regis Canoe Area) Going to try again next weekend. My son is 11. I am afraid that when he gets into the 20's and 30's the ADK's will be primarily a Bass and pike fishery. Sad times guys
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:40 AM   #2
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I'm concerned about the warming temps as well but considering there are still plenty of trout streams in Georgia, including Brook Trout, I'd say we have a long time till the adirondacks cant support trout.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:46 AM   #3
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I dont know enough to truly speculate, but I can only say that I did an overnight on a pond last weekend that I had planned for a while only to find it to be bath water. This hot spell did a number on temps.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:48 PM   #4
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Something on the Albany TV news/weather...we broke 13 heat records this year and 12 in '16....scary!
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:03 PM   #5
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Ever hear of Indian summer? It's been happening for decades now and I can remember Indian summers way back in the 1950's and 1960s. Let's not over-react here.............
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Old 09-29-2017, 01:16 PM   #6
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Most definitions of Indian Summer say it is an unusually late period of warm, dry, and still weather occurring in the fall after a hard frost. We haven't had any heavy frost yet this season. I can remember many days of deer hunting in late October and November with my father as far back as in the 1960's when it was an unbearably hot walk out of the woods in bright sunshine. We're possibly not done yet here in 2017 with Indian Summer.
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Old 09-29-2017, 03:19 PM   #7
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I find this (as of yesterday) hot weather, this deep into fall disgusting. I cancelled a trip that was supposed to happen last weekend due to blazing sunshine and high 80's (St Regis Canoe Area) Going to try again next weekend. My son is 11. I am afraid that when he gets into the 20's and 30's the ADK's will be primarily a Bass and pike fishery. Sad times guys
If the Adks turn into a "Bass/Pike fishery" it won't be because of the weather
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Old 09-29-2017, 10:56 PM   #8
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I took a day and did a little hike/swamp wobblin in the heat, just took plenty of beer to stay hydrated and a good piss can in the boat is all that's needed to bag some trophy trout (18 and 19.5) Glen I offered to wheel chair you in, you missed out on this trip but we'll get em next time.
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Old 09-30-2017, 09:09 AM   #9
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Pikebuster- Damn, that's a beauty. Only two cans of Busch in the bottom? I'm impressed!
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Old 09-30-2017, 11:41 AM   #10
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Brookies

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Old 09-30-2017, 12:46 PM   #11
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Holy Moly!! Im totally impressed Pikebuster! That brookie is incredibly beautiful! And you only caught it on 2 cans of Busch! Crazy fishing trip! Thanks for sharing!
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Old 09-30-2017, 01:17 PM   #12
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Dang!!!! They don't get much prettier than that. Congrats
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:33 PM   #13
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Nice brooks pikebuster!
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Old 09-30-2017, 08:06 PM   #14
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Yeah, thats a hog!! Guess the Pikebuster aint bullsh-----g!! He knows how to get the big`ens.


To try to stay on the topic, I must add, I haven't seen consistent good levels of fishing in 3 years now. Either the rivers drop way too early in the spring ,so they will tend to warm up even quicker even before the dog days of summer and fall fishing is almost out of the question on my local rivers the past 3 years ,between the high water temps . and the very low levels ,I hate to even bother the trout. I miss getting out on a crisp ,cool autumn morning on our ole familiar rivers near the closure of the season and catch a few nice big fat colorful browns and rainbows before I put the fly gear away . sad , I haven't had this opportunity in quite some time. How do you all feel about this. I know ,I`m not talking about the adk`s but, I was told even those rivers are getting low(thin) and still too warm. Getting scary, and hoping very seriously ,its just a small cycle and will right itself maybe next year. ughhhh.
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Old 10-02-2017, 07:51 AM   #15
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Ever hear of Indian summer? It's been happening for decades now and I can remember Indian summers way back in the 1950's and 1960s. Let's not over-react here.............
Science tells us otherwise - Science is what makes us different than apes that live in trees. I will roll my eyes as well
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Old 10-02-2017, 02:59 PM   #16
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Science also tells us that the climate has been evolving since long before humans even existed
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Old 10-02-2017, 06:59 PM   #17
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Science also tells us that the climate has been evolving since long before humans even existed
Look for another period where climate changed so drastically in 150 years. Hint: You won't find one. In earth terms this is like an explosion.
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Old 10-03-2017, 03:29 PM   #18
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How much longer will the ADKs support trout?....

Until the next ice age.

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Old 10-03-2017, 06:59 PM   #19
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The Brook Trouts demise on Tug Hill has almost single handedly been caused by the Beaver.
Tributaries of Salmon River and the East Branch of Fish Creek used to hold large populations of native Brook Trout. These small brooks were shaded by the forest canopy, water was free running, cold and pure enough to drink from the streams. Then in the mid 60's, the beaver population exploded, flooding the forest, killing the trees therefore degrading the shade integrity, giardiasis parasite, siltation, stagnation, and leaching more acid into the stream from the flooded forest soil.

I'd be willing to bet there were no days this summer in the ADK's where the temps reached 90degrees ? The Brook trout fishery in the ADK's at least in the many deep lakes and ponds will be just fine for many years to come. Save a Brook Trout, trap a beaver.
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Old 10-03-2017, 07:09 PM   #20
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My first fishing experience was for Tug Hill trout in the 50's and 60's. Both of my parents grew up there, and my dad would take me fishing at a very young age and visit my grandfather who still lived there at the time. We regularly caught and ate our limit (limit 10, and 6 inch minimum legal size then). I haven't tried fishing there in recent years, but plan to again in retirement.

Of course beaver evidence is everywhere now. My dad said there were very few or no beavers when he was growing up. Just look at the topo maps of the area, most recent editions date from around 1943. Lots of streams and open forested terrain showing on the maps. But go there now and the topos are all but useless for travel with all the beaver flooding.
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