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Old 05-24-2009, 09:08 PM   #1
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Fall Stream-Mossy Vly Brook-Jessup River feasability.

Has anyone carried from Mud or Vly lake over the height of land to Mossy Vly? Is there any possibility of using snowmobile trails and/or 4WD roads? Or could canoes be lined, dragged or shoved up Willis Vly?

I was also curious about the waters on Mossy Vly Brook into Jessup River.

The end point would be Indian Lake.

Early July.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:22 PM   #2
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Neil,
I've been only as far as Vly Lake and paddled parts of the Jessup, but never in between.
But looking at the topo maps, generally speaking, if the stream is depicted as having some width, it may be navigable. But if the stream is shown as a single blue line (Mossy Vly Brook, for example), then it is usually not navigable.
I know a few others here have paddled quite a bit of the Jessup, much more than I have for sure...
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:25 PM   #3
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If your going in July, make sure to bring an umbrella.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:28 PM   #4
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If your going in July, make sure to bring an umbrella.
That's what the canoe is for.
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That's what the canoe is for.
Is it a trigger release fold out? Your getting fancy with your gear, Neil.
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Old 05-25-2009, 06:13 AM   #6
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This post is what got me looking at this area. They approached Mossy Vly via Sacandaga Lake. They also did it in May and were able to run down Mossy Vly for over a mile.

By July it might be better to put in the Jessup near Perkins clearing and just noodle around for the day. Maybe spot a bike at Lewey Lake.
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:46 AM   #7
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I've done Fall Stream into Vly quite a few times, and parts of the Jessup but never put it together as a continuous trip. I know that on the Jessup from Rt. 30 to Indian Lake there's a large beaver dam & the river turns into a real rock garden before entering the Lake. Last time I did the other part of the Jessup there was alot of log jams, and beaver dams.

I did Fall Stream last September and there was six beaver dams and a debris tangle on the last stretch before Vly. If the water is running somewhat high you can run most of the beaver dams but in summer months you mostly have to get out of your canoe/kayak to get around them.

I know that there's alot of snowmobile trails in the Sacandaga-Fawn Lake area, that could be used as portaging routes. Fawn is a nice side trip if you can catch it during the week but it's a popular camping destination on weekends with the easy short carry trail from the Sacandaga Lake side.

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Old 05-25-2009, 09:05 PM   #8
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That's a sweet trip you've got planned! I've only gone into Mud Lake on the maiden voyage of my Hornbeck. In a canoe the beaver dams were a no issue.

Paddled the Miami, but not the Jessup.

Real interested to hear about your trip.
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Old 05-31-2018, 08:51 PM   #9
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Nine years later, anybody been from Jessup River to fall stream? Or from fall stream to upper Jessup or mossy vly?
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Old 06-01-2018, 08:42 AM   #10
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Some have explored the upper reaches of Fall Stream above Vly Lake, not day trip territory.
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:22 PM   #12
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What I've done is Big Bay to Piseco, up Fall Stream to Vly Lake, do the tough but blazed 1-1/2mi. carry over the shoulder of Fish Mountain to Fawn Lake (used by CampFowler), find it in the southeast corner of Vly, then paddle Fawn and you'll find the carry to Sacandaga Lake, then you paddle up into Mud Lake and hook up with woods roads that take you on a long carry to the Jessup. There is an interesting stream called Pole Brook which in my imagination is the connector between Mud Lake and the Jessup, you have to pole it it's so small. But in reality, I never found it feasible. Later, you cross Route 30. But remember there is a long carry with no trail along the bony stretch of the Jessup before you reach Indian lake. Now there would be a nice place for a carry trail!! Hint.

I'm interested in this trip again if you are!

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