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View Poll Results: How do you PREFER to paddle?
I prefer to paddle solo whenever I can get away with it. 86 78.90%
I prefer to paddle tandem with a partner--two sets of arms are better than one! 20 18.35%
I'll paddle with as many people as I can fit in the canoe--the more the merrier! 1 0.92%
I prefer to sit back and let someone else do all the work. 2 1.83%
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:39 PM   #41
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Going Solo

To be honest I prefer solo whether in my canoe or kayak. However speaking as a father I love when my son Max wants to paddle our tandem canoe together. I never pass that opportunity up.

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Old 06-20-2016, 03:45 PM   #42
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Both, 2 tandems and 2 solos on truck
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Old 07-02-2016, 12:53 PM   #43
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A variant on an aphorism: "Imaginary friends are great at keeping secrets but they are no help paddling a canoe." Thus I generally paddle solo.
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Old 07-04-2016, 05:45 PM   #44
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Who cares!!!
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Old 07-08-2016, 09:33 AM   #45
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Indifference is, sadly, all too common in this lax modern era.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:22 PM   #46
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Many years ago I had a tandem. I sold the tandem after getting married because my wife wasn't interested in wilderness canoeing and camping. I bought a Sawyer Autumn Mist solo canoe and never looked back. Over the past 25 years, I have taken it on trips all over the northeastern U.S. and Canada. When my kids were little, I put them on a cushion in front of me and paddled them into places in the ADKs. When they were older we rented a tandem, but it didn't take long for them to ask to rent another solo so they could paddle on their own. Now I am fortunate to have two solo boats. I don't see myself ever going back to a tandem.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:04 PM   #47
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Likewise. The only tandem I ever had was a Coleman; I sold it after just one canoe trip. Now have 2 solos, and my significant other bought a solo last year. I did pick up (literally) a large Kevlar tandem in very poor shape that was at the curb locally. If my friend can fabricate some parts, I might hang onto it for a while.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:50 PM   #48
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The way it's written, I can't participate in the survey because I'm fine with either. If it's my wife and I, we take our tandem. We've paddled together for over 40 years. If she's not along, I'll take my solo.
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:39 AM   #49
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:49 AM   #50
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My wife has a passionate discourse on our current society not being able/ willing/ or finding it necessary to work through the minor conflicts that can occur in a tandem boat. A favorite example is people talking about their shared experience - which is shared by solo paddlers communicating over walkie/talkies.
Or by simply screaming across the water, which in my experience, is much more likely.
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:54 PM   #51
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Or by simply screaming across the water, which in my experience, is much more likely.
Alternates names for a tandem canoe: C2, two seater canoe, divorce boat.
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Alternates names for a tandem canoe: C2, two seater canoe, divorce boat.
Divorce boat! I love it. I paddle tandem with my wife, and I call her Ballast. Her job is to sit up front, keep an eye out for rocks, and paddle when I ask her to. Most of the time, it's easier for me if she just doesn't paddle at all. She has this annoying habit of paddling for three strokes, pausing, paddling for two strokes, pausing, and doing this pretty much randomly. She is able to keep us out of sync like it's her job. We've been married 32 years though, so we must be doing something right. I can tell you, however, that paddling a tandem canoe is not that something.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:39 AM   #53
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Divorce boat! I love it. I paddle tandem with my wife, and I call her Ballast. Her job is to sit up front, keep an eye out for rocks, and paddle when I ask her to. Most of the time, it's easier for me if she just doesn't paddle at all. She has this annoying habit of paddling for three strokes, pausing, paddling for two strokes, pausing, and doing this pretty much randomly. She is able to keep us out of sync like it's her job. We've been married 32 years though, so we must be doing something right. I can tell you, however, that paddling a tandem canoe is not that something.
Does she hang her legs over the gunnels and put her feet in the water while you're paddling like mine does?

There goes all my momentum. Again.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:44 AM   #54
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My lovely wife and I paddled tandem once. We now have solo canoes-much better!
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Old 08-09-2018, 01:39 PM   #55
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Does she hang her legs over the gunnels and put her feet in the water while you're paddling like mine does?

There goes all my momentum. Again.
Mine did that the few times we went! Also kept her feet off the pedals when we rented a tandem bike. We are still together after 25 years though!
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:39 PM   #56
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What RichieC said. I'd no more paddle or camp alone than I'd go to a restaurant or the cinema alone. True, it's tough when your crew isn't in stroke or can't manage the boat, but what a blast it is when everyone pulls together! The feeling of acceleration and power in a well-crewed eight-man rowing hull, ICF K4, or Canadian C-15 is an experience you'll never forget.

Mrs Spork and I have a 16.5ft prospector. She keeps an even pace and I'm pretty decent at the J-stroke so we do OK. Yes, it requires more technique, focus, and teamwork. But succeeding at that is a worthy end in itself IMHO.

All things being equal, a boat with a longer waterline will be faster. So a tandem should outpace two solos. So say the laws of physics.

To me one tandem makes more sense on a two-person portage than two solos. Less stuff to carry. Easier to get the portage done in one shot.

The only solo boats we've owned are ICF C1s (being to canoes as a Laser is to sailing).

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Old 08-20-2018, 08:27 PM   #57
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All things being equal, a boat with a longer waterline will be faster. So a tandem should outpace two solos. So say the laws of physics.
That's actually not true. It's more to do with the ratio of the length to width as well as the actual shape of the boat. Then there's skin friction. More wetted area = more friction, so there's a tradeoff between wavemaking/cutting through the water and skin friction terms of length. And of course all that changes with load, so there's an ideal spot where the boat will be its most efficient.

By necessity a lot of solo canoes need to be easier to push through the water in order to keep pace with the increased power output of a tandem crew. Hence they are narrower and usually a bit shorter. The goal of a lot of designers of the first solo trippers was to allow a single paddler to keep pace with a tandem. That means a lot less wavemaking and a lot less skin friction.

IME even most good solo canoes won't keep pace with the best tandems on the market today given similar effort. They are close, but it's hard to overcome that power deficit given that tandem hulls have gotten so good, mostly due to what was learned from solo design.
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That's actually not true. It's more to do with the ratio of the length to width as well as the actual shape of the boat. Then there's skin friction. More wetted area = more friction, so there's a tradeoff between wavemaking/cutting through the water and skin friction terms of length. And of course all that changes with load, so there's an ideal spot where the boat will be its most efficient..
So quick question - those kevlar front and back protection pads they sell - do they destroy your skin friction like I was thinking they would?
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:16 AM   #59
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I learned right away that I couldn't keep up with tandems--twice the horsepower and 20% more drag.
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:27 AM   #60
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And is that why we solo? No reason to 'keep up'.
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