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Old 08-24-2004, 04:41 PM   #1
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Steepest trail sections in the ADKS?

I recently hiked the Mt. Adams trail (with its handful of steep pitches) and was reminded of the extremely steep section of trail just before you reach the summit of Debar Mtn. If I remember correctly McMartin claims this is one of the steepest sections of trail in all the Adirondacks. Just wondering what other trails (or sections of trail) people consider to be in the "steepest in the ADK" group.
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Old 08-24-2004, 04:59 PM   #2
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Three come to mind:

- The scenic trail on Sawteeth (1600' in a mile)
- The Beckhorn trail off Dix, (the top part is at least that )
- Haystack from Panther Gorge (and then some)

There are plenty of short steeper section, but over distance (like a mile) these stick out as tounge draggers.
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:39 PM   #3
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but over distance (like a mile) these stick out as tounge draggers.
Wouldn't it be easier to use trekking poles to slow down?

(And be easier on the tongue?)
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Old 08-25-2004, 07:29 AM   #4
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Long stretch: Lake Colden to Algonquin
Shorter sections: Range Trail on Basin, Saddleback
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:39 AM   #5
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Three come to mind:

- The scenic trail on Sawteeth (1600' in a mile)
- The Beckhorn trail off Dix, (the top part is at least that )
Those are my top 2 (very few people seem to think the Beckhorn trail is 'steep'... but I have no doubt having climbed down it).

I'd add the trail over Basin and Saddleback. I learned how to rock climb that day .

There's a few stretches on other mountains (Nippletop, Giant, Algonquin come to mind), but the sections are brief.
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Old 08-25-2004, 09:46 AM   #6
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Steepest Trail!

I'll add one more. The trail from Mt. Colden to Lake Colden. Just did it this past Sunday for the second time and it is very steep for the first mile down.

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Old 08-25-2004, 11:25 AM   #7
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All good entries so far, here's a couple more:

- Seymour, climbs 1750' in just over a mile
- Dix, the last mile+ from 73 climbs 1700'
- Noonmark, yes - Noonmark! on the Stinson Trail, 2 miles of it & almost no breathers
- the last 1/4 mile up Seward, Redfield, Basin & Allen
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Old 08-25-2004, 11:32 AM   #8
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i like climbing up rock.

hate coming down it though.
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Old 08-25-2004, 11:52 AM   #9
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All good entries so far, here's a couple more:

- Seymour, climbs 1750' in just over a mile
Forgot about that one, but because it was the 4th peak that day I figured I was just tired

[but looking back it WAS consistently steep]
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:13 PM   #10
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Fear of heights...

How would you rate these steep sections for someone with a fear of heights??

example: My wife is my primary hiking partner and she was kinda freaked out by the last approach to Whiteface, or at least the section just before reaching the road over the rocky section near the wall (anyone know what I mean??) Would any of these sections resemble anything like that?

Strange part is, she loves roller coasters! Hates the climb but loves the ride.....weird But I digress......
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:22 PM   #11
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How would you rate these steep sections for someone with a fear of heights??

example: My wife is my primary hiking partner and she was kinda freaked out by the last approach to Whiteface, or at least the section just before reaching the road over the rocky section near the wall (anyone know what I mean??) Would any of these sections resemble anything like that?

Strange part is, she loves roller coasters! Hates the climb but loves the ride.....weird But I digress......
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- Sawteeth - Trail is not really exposed, but the lookout are intense (very scenic though)
- Beckhorn (Dix), She'd hate the beckhorn, and the upper trail is steep and could be scary.
- Haystack - She might not like that one up high.
- Allen - No problem, steep, but in the woods.
- Seymour & Seward - Same thing
- Lake Colden to Colden - She'd hate it. Steep and ledgy up top.
- Basin - Ledgy, but breathtaking
- Saddleback - Whoa boy, you'll be in divorce court if you take her there

Take a look;

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Old 08-25-2004, 01:49 PM   #12
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Short answers,
- Beckhorn (Dix), She'd hate the beckhorn, and the upper trail is steep and could be scary.
- Basin - Ledg(e)y, but breathtaking
- Saddleback - Whoa boy, you'll be in divorce court if you take her there
NR, I'm afraid of heights (usually get a tingling in my legs) and I managed these without breaking a sweat. I just never look down .

Tim, nice shot
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:54 PM   #13
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No one's mentioned the descent from Armstrong to Upper Wolfjaw... Armstrong's got the tallest ladder I've seen in the high peaks...
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Old 08-25-2004, 01:59 PM   #14
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No one's mentioned the descent from Armstrong to Upper Wolfjaw... Armstrong's got the tallest ladder I've seen in the high peaks...
The one on Basin is no slouch either.
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Old 08-25-2004, 02:28 PM   #15
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The one on Basin is no slouch either.
I think that's like the second tallest ladder, then there's one on the decent down from the col between Gothics and saddleback (it's mostly rotted) that's pretty tall too... but it's laying on a rock and not really suspended. Sawteeth ranks up there.
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Thanks!

These all seem like fair assessments.

Mavs, great pic! She may not freak too much at that one (unless I'm underestimating the angle of the picture), although 1st time summiting Cascade she panicked a little, 2nd time was much better cause she knew what to expect.

Any suggestions on a trail that might spook her a little with out scaring the begezus out of her? Kinda wanna break'er in a little....
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Any suggestions on a trail that might spook her a little with out scaring the begezus out of her? Kinda wanna break'er in a little....

Maybe Giant, up the ridge trail. There are a few sort sections on open rock like the section that goes over the bump.
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Old 08-25-2004, 03:00 PM   #18
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I've done Giant 3 times now, and I'll gladly do it a thousand more. It's a great hike with some challenging but not overly dangerous scrambles. I think Zac's made a great suggestion, and it's not a long hike either (approx 6 miles round trip from the ridge trail).

Sawteeth won't scare her, but it is also challenging. It's a longer hike though, 13 miles round trip (come in/out on either the Weld trail or the Sceneic trail to make a small loop).
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It must be the angle. My wife is not generally spooked, and she wasn't a fan of this section. Here's another shot.



The trail up over Pyramid to Gothics is steep and there are some (semi) exposed section, but nothing compared to other spots. Just stay on the AMR side, The other side of Gothics (where the cables used to be) might be a little exposed.

On another note, without knowing the depth of your wife's fears, it's pretty hard to make good recommandations. It will be a real trial and error thing.
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Tim, we skirted that section on Saddleback .

If you look down at the tree line, there's now a small path along there that looked like a trail, so we followed it (looked better than going up lol). We realized, about halfway up this section of rock, that this WASN'T the trail but decided to finish the climb. It probably did make the last few hundred yards easier, but you still had to get up a rather impressive section before even getting there (the one where you're spread eagle pushing/pulling with 3 limbs... you know what one I mean ). Only word of caution is that this bushwack could be harming the vegetation. Next time I would take the bare rock. Maybe the next trail crew can close that off.
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