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Old 04-08-2017, 11:21 AM   #1
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Lake Lila Ice Out

My nephew and I would like to plan a camping/paddling/fishing weekend at Lake Lila the last weekend of this month or the first in May. Are we too early with regards to ice-out? Thanks for any advice.
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Old 04-08-2017, 01:57 PM   #2
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Here's how Lila looked the 1st weekend of May, 2013.
This year has been relatively mild, I would expect similar conditions.


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Old 04-08-2017, 09:14 PM   #3
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Very helpful, thank you.
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:35 PM   #4
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Even if the ice is out,
How are you planning on getting there?
It's a ~5 mile portage unless the access road is dry and DEC opens it to motor vehicles... which could be as late as Memorial day.
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Even if the ice is out,
How are you planning on getting there?
It's a ~5 mile portage unless the access road is dry and DEC opens it to motor vehicles... which could be as late as Memorial day.
It's just a hop, skip and a jump going through Bog River Flow or Little Tupper...
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That's what I was thinking.
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Old 04-09-2017, 04:28 PM   #7
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Choose your route wisely, the court case is not yet completely settled. The spring that Lila was first opened to the public my wife and I backpacked by hiking in there along the road, we tented, but did not bring a canoe. The Nehasane lodge was a smoking ruin at the time, with chimneys still standing upright in the rubble.
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Old 04-09-2017, 06:09 PM   #8
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It's just a hop, skip and a jump going through Bog River Flow or Little Tupper...
My bad, I read "camping/paddling/fishing weekend at Lake Lila" VS "camping/paddling/fishing weekend to Lake Lila".

Just wanted to make sure OP knows the drill.
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Old 04-09-2017, 08:24 PM   #9
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My nephew and I would like to plan a camping/paddling/fishing weekend at Lake Lila the last weekend of this month or the first in May. Are we too early with regards to ice-out? Thanks for any advice.
Just a heads up...if you do the traverse from Little Tupper to Lila during the time frame you mentioned, be aware that some sections of the carry trails are likely to be under water (if the ice is out). My son and I encountered such conditions some years back when we did the trek in late June after a stretch of wet weather.
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:34 PM   #10
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I wouldn't consider from Little Tupper to Lila a hop, skip & jump. There's pretty extensive carrying, some messy put-ins/take-outs, and the endless meanders of Shingle Shanty. It's a great trip but maybe not for a weekend? From Bog River Flow would be easier, though even then the stretch from Low's to Lila has the medium long carry with the RR tracks, and a rough bit near the Lila end.
But Stripperguy knows the area well so maybe it's his sense of humor.....
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For fit person with light load, it can probably be done in 5-6 hours from Lows (perhaps longer since the road to lower dam would probably be closed also) and 7-8 from Little Tupper. If you add the time to set/break camp at Lila, for a typical weekend (2 day vs "long" 3 day) it would be a 'destination' trip rather than a 'stay' trip...

Wheeling a cart on the access road would probably take 2-4 hours depending on conditions and load.

Is there any place to park at Sabbatis and access the tracks? It's longer vs. the access road but rolling a cart on rails would be a breeze compared to the up/down on the washed out gravel road... (before trains start operations)
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I always thought a lite cart that could ride on the rails would open up a lot of paddling possibilities along this and other railroads. maybe just a wider axle and different wheels on a regular cart?
I know walking on the ties is a problem. maybe a lightweight pedal car? Guess I'm getting carried away.
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Old 04-16-2017, 10:16 AM   #13
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I wouldn't consider from Little Tupper to Lila a hop, skip & jump. There's pretty extensive carrying, some messy put-ins/take-outs, and the endless meanders of Shingle Shanty. It's a great trip but maybe not for a weekend? From Bog River Flow would be easier, though even then the stretch from Low's to Lila has the medium long carry with the RR tracks, and a rough bit near the Lila end.
But Stripperguy knows the area well so maybe it's his sense of humor.....
Yeah, my tongue in cheek comments don't translate that well over the keyboard.
If the access to the lower dam is not open, there is the alternate put in farther up the road to Horseshoe.
And carting in on the Lila access road wouldn't be the worst thing, it's mostly flat. In fact, much flatter than the access to Boreas Ponds...and a better paddling destination, IMHO.
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Rick, did that trip materialize? any blackflies out yet in that area?
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Per this link, DEC reports both Lake Lila access road and Lows Lower dam roads are are open to public motor vehicle traffic. Report dated May 4, 2017
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Rick, did that trip materialize? any blackflies out yet in that area?
No, never materialized. My nephew doesn't have anywhere near the amount of vacation time I have, so it looks like it's going to be mid-June before we get there. Hoping for the best with the bugs.
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