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Old 06-05-2017, 09:55 AM   #21
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The point is, if a bear can sense the presence of food (as it can in a sack) enough to fiddle with it, successfully or not, then it is associating food odors with people and campsites. Even if it is unsuccessful at obtaining the food, it will return to campsites where people are. That is to be avoided, an is the reason for the regulation stating that sacks are not acceptable.
Bear canisters are not smell proof especially the BPC type. I have seen bears roll them down hills etc. I see no difference between them messing with my Ursack attached to a tree and the BPC black barrel. Both have food in them. Both can get sniffed/messed with. Both associate food with hiker. HYOH.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:27 AM   #22
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No question there will be traces of food odors on the canister's surface. The issue is one of effort and reward.

The effort of fiddling with a canister typically produces no reward. The effort of mashing and puncturing food inside a bag can produce the reward of additional tantalizing odors. Hardly the bear's desired reward but definitely a source of encouragement in comparison to the, typically, zero-return from canisters.

Anyhoo, "HYOH" applies outside the Eastern High Peaks Wilderness area. Inside it, there's the canister regulation (and many others).
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Old 06-06-2017, 11:26 AM   #23
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Anyhoo, "HYOH" applies outside the Eastern High Peaks Wilderness area. Inside it, there's the canister regulation (and many others).
HYOH also allows the Ursack during winter in the highpeaks. Keeps lots of creatures out of your food.
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Old 06-06-2017, 11:52 AM   #24
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The (I think) real reason we'll never see Ursaks allowed in the High Peaks (at least not anytime soon) has nothing to do with their effectiveness. Rather, it likely has to do with the fact that canister regulation is just that- a regulation, not a law, and therefore is much more difficult to modify or change due to necessary controls to maintain gov't accountability.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:29 AM   #25
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Any thoughts on lining Ursack or canister with odor "proof" bags to discourage Yogi from finding it? I know I tend to get grumpy when I can't get the lid off of the cookie jar. Would be nice if Yogi just walked on by...
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Any thoughts on lining Ursack or canister with odor "proof" bags to discourage Yogi from finding it? I know I tend to get grumpy when I can't get the lid off of the cookie jar. Would be nice if Yogi just walked on by...
I'm skeptical to say the least.

A bear can smell a carcass from 20 miles away...

Not sure an odor proof bag will help.

Also who's to say its not the peanut butter in your food bag as much as its your stinky socks...
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Old 06-21-2017, 04:30 PM   #27
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I started using odor proof bags inside my hang bag and it seems to have helped with rodent problems. Opsak I think.
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