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Old 01-28-2014, 05:56 PM   #61
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A good book for those interested is "How to Sh!t in the Woods".
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:31 PM   #62
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the best sanitary tool is a small garden shovel.... hole should be six inches down...obviously not near water or other activity. TP?... a leaf or two is perfectly fine with me
Just make sure it's not poison ivy...
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:19 AM   #63
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Can't believe I just read a thread about what people do with their sh!t when they're in the woods, I can't be that bored....can I?
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:23 AM   #64
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Sanitation is actually very appropriate subject matter for this forum. Not adding nutrients and bacteria to water is a huge issue, for the ADK's...and much of the world ..... ( The Gates Foundation, in trying to solve the world's big problems, is working on designing better outhouses.)
We need to care that our waste is disposed of properly and biodegrades naturally....otherwise its pollution.
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Just make sure it's not poison ivy...
Fortunately, poison ivy is extremely rare in the Adirondack backcounty.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:17 PM   #66
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Sanitation is actually very appropriate subject matter for this forum. Not adding nutrients and bacteria to water is a huge issue, for the ADK's...and much of the world ..... ( The Gates Foundation, in trying to solve the world's big problems, is working on designing better outhouses.)
We need to care that our waste is disposed of properly and biodegrades naturally....otherwise its pollution.
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:20 PM   #67
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Camping Rules and Guidelines

Please note: Specific land units in the forest preserve may have regulations that differ from the rules and guidelines listed below. For information about specific land areas, look at our regulations page or contact the Regional Office near the land unit of interest.

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Rules and guidelines for the use of public lands managed by DEC are generally as follows:
•Camping is prohibited within 150 feet of any road, trail, spring, stream, pond or other body of water except at areas designated by a "camp here" disk.
•Groups of ten or more persons OR stays of more than three days in one place require a permit from the New York State Forest Ranger responsible for the area.
•Lean-tos are available in many areas on a first come first served basis. Lean-tos cannot be used exclusively and must be shared with other campers.
•Use pit privies provided near popular camping areas and trailheads. If none are available, dispose of human waste by digging a hole 6"-8" deep at least 150 feet from water or campsites. Cover with leaves and soil.
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:32 PM   #68
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A good book for those interested is "How to Sh!t in the Woods".
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ĽUse pit privies provided near popular camping areas and trailheads. If none are available, dispose of human waste by digging a hole 6"-8" deep at least 150 feet from water or campsites. Cover with leaves and soil.
The short one.

And the official LNT answer to the original pose is to pack out the TP which I refuse to do if there is organic soil.

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?
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No TP?
No problem.
Just use the communal "Camp Rock" curtain.
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The long answer.



The short one.

And the official LNT answer to the original pose is to pack out the TP which I refuse to do if there is organic soil.

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?
The technique is called "smearing" or "frosting". One is to smear their feces thin on an exposed rock, the uV from the sun will destroy the microbes and the wind/precipitation will wash it all away. This technique can also be used in other conditions such as lack of organic soil to biodegrade. This technique is no longer recommended due to people not following proper smearing protocols.
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The technique is called "smearing" or "frosting". One is to smear their feces thin on an exposed rock, the uV from the sun will destroy the microbes and the wind/precipitation will wash it all away. This technique can also be used in other conditions such as lack of organic soil to biodegrade.
I've never heard of that but it sounds awful. I'd rather take my chances with the camp rock curtain!

I try to find a log a I can hide it under but in most cases have been near a privy. Luckily I'm not out long enough in the winter to have to excise this very often.
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No TP?
No problem.
Just use the communal "Camp Rock" curtain.
Kelly Point, Long Lake, High Peaks Wilderness?
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I've never heard of that but it sounds awful. I'd rather take my chances with the camp rock curtain!
This is commonly accepted practice in the desert.
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Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?
I'd get off the beaten path and if there was snow bury it in the snow, if no snow cover it with leaf litter. I ain't packing it out. I do know of a ticket given for crapping in the woods, the person was almost on the trail and in plan site did not even try to cover it. I think if you just use a little common sense there should be a problem.
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:14 AM   #76
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Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug? I'd get off the beaten path and if there was snow bury it in the snow, if no snow cover it with leaf litter. I ain't packing it out. I do know of a ticket given for crapping in the woods, the person was almost on the trail and in plan site did not even try to cover it. I think if you just use a little common sense there should be a problem.
I burn it.
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:32 AM   #77
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I burn it.
Sounds doable at times.
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Would this be a help for some?

Hey all of you IBSers - here is an invention that you are going to kick yourself for not thinking up first: glow-in-the-dark toilet paper. A company out of the UK called Thumbs Up has beaten you to the punch. And, what a good idea it is! No longer will you need to put on glaring overhead lighting when you need to use the john. The web site itself labels the product "perfect for power cuts".
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:18 AM   #79
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I have IBS and I don't really get it?

I am proficient at digging holes and I always carry some eco-friendly paper with me. I keep a headlamp for night duties.

My wife did tell me the other day she envisions her last thoughts before she dies being me walking into the woods with a roll of tp under my arm
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:23 AM   #80
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Would this be a help for some?

Hey all of you IBSers - here is an invention that you are going to kick yourself for not thinking up first: glow-in-the-dark toilet paper. A company out of the UK called Thumbs Up has beaten you to the punch. And, what a good idea it is! No longer will you need to put on glaring overhead lighting when you need to use the john. The web site itself labels the product "perfect for power cuts".
No. At seven dollars plus a roll you have to be kidding. Plus better living through more chemistry? God forbid I ever see this in the Adirondacks.
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