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Old 07-21-2016, 02:08 PM   #1
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Thruhike duration?

I know the answer is "it depends", but I'll ask anyway.

Looking at the NPT site trying to plan a little, it looks like you can do it in 8 days/7 nights, if you camp at established sites every 17-19 miles, with the 8th day ending in LP.

I'm considering late-ish September, which will cut short the daylight hours a little, but also skip the bugs and heat.

Is this a legit schedule? Again, I'm in the early stages of the plan, but it doesn't look like it's a lot of "mountain" climbing, just hiking.
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Old 07-21-2016, 02:56 PM   #2
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You are right; just hiking. The only significant climb, and it is not really very long, is over the ridge north of Tirrell Pond. So 8 days is very reasonable.

The record is less than two days; folks who really take their time plan on 2 weeks. When my wife and I through hiked in 2007, we took 8 days, same as you are planning. That was not bad at all. We didn't spread the mileage evenly, because we knew in advance that we wanted to spend more time in he very nice Cold River section. So going from S to N we did some long days up front in order to have time to spend near the Cold River. (The southern sections were a little boring to me, so long fast walks were good.) But an even spread over 8 days should be fine!
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Old 07-21-2016, 03:11 PM   #3
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Good to hear, I'm worried about blisters on the long walk with a heavy pack (http://www.adkhighpeaks.com/forums/f...tside-of-heels) but after a few days the heavy food will be gone at least.

I'd take longer, but I doubt I have that much time. I just pulled 80 miles in 3.5 days for the same reason (http://faint-traces.blogspot.com/201...uth-trail.html).
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:06 PM   #4
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That's a good schedule. While the trail only has one significant climb, don't be fooled, it is quite hilly in a couple places.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:18 PM   #5
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That's a good schedule. While the trail only has one significant climb, don't be fooled, it is quite hilly in a couple places.
I'm sure. I'm hoping it's less like the Great Range and more like the hike in to Avalanche. Do you know if the guidebook contains maps/profiles? The NatGeo map looks like the scale must be too small to be useful.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:52 PM   #6
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I did it in 7 days, so an average of 17 miles per day. I did 70 miles in the first 3 days, and then I slowed down considerably for the next 4- not due to physical fatigue or injury, but rather because the weather took a considerable turn for the worse, and because there were a few spots (lean-tos) I wanted to camp at specifically.

Like jmitch states, there is only the 1 big climb, but there are hills in other places where the trail meanders up and down and the elevation gains and losses can add up over longer distances. If you're in decent hiking shape, I wouldn't be super concerned, however.

So it's definitely doable- but I wouldn't attempt to hike the trail this quickly unless I was 100% confident I could do so. Average pace for the entire trail is much longer- anywhere from 10 to 14 days, with 12 days probably being typical for most backpackers. If you didn't encounter any serious issues on you 80 mile hike in 3.5 days, though, then I would say go for this. Just have a backup plan in mind just in case you run into any issues.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:24 AM   #7
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I ran into some blister issues on the previous hike, but part of that was the 85 degree heat and the (literally) miles of asphalt road walking. No exertion problems, cramps, etc.

I'm used to walking all day, mentally at least, if not physically, and I'm not a "campfire" guy. If you average 11-12 miles a day on flattish terrain (yes with the 1 big climb), this might come across as a dumb question, but what do you _do_ for the rest of the time?
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The rest of the time

but what do you _do_ for the rest of the time?[/QUOTE]

Take notes so you can write a killer TR for this forum.:-)
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For some people, 10-12 miles with a full pack is a full day of hiking.
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For some people, 10-12 miles with a full pack is a full day of hiking.
Hey, I resemble that! If you can, take your time. There are some great places on the NP that you will want to take some time and enjoy.

I once ran into a guy who did the trail in 5 days. I realize that he was on a limited schedule, but he didn't stop to see what he was seeing. I wonder if he will ever have the chance to do it again?
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Old 07-31-2016, 10:19 PM   #11
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"if you can" - and that's the rub. I'm 5+ hours away, and don't get infinite vacation, I need to be mindful of my time.
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:06 PM   #12
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Is the "Adirondack Trails Northville Placid Trail, 4th Edition" by Jeffrey and Donna Case a good/sufficient guide?
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Is the "Adirondack Trails Northville Placid Trail, 4th Edition" by Jeffrey and Donna Case a good/sufficient guide?
Generally, yes, it should be fine. A couple of things to be aware of, though, which may necessitate additional research on your part:

I can't remember if it has the Wakely to Stephens Pond re-route or not. If it doesn't, you'll want to get some information on the new route.

It definitely doesn't have any of the new re-routes at the southern end. Make sure you're aware of the Woods Lake re-route and the new Shaker Mountain Wild Forest section (combined, they add 10+ miles to the required distance for a thru-hike).
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Old 08-18-2016, 04:56 PM   #14
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Is that the 122->136 mile delta then?


Also, if this was the first week of October, have I missed the foliage and will I be left with just the yellows and browns?
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For some people, 10-12 miles with a full pack is a full day of hiking.
Now I feel like a big wuss.
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Reading that the first 10+ miles are a roadwalk is almost enough to put me off the trip.
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I'm used to walking all day, mentally at least, if not physically, and I'm not a "campfire" guy. If you average 11-12 miles a day on flattish terrain (yes with the 1 big climb), this might come across as a dumb question, but what do you _do_ for the rest of the time?
I'm sure some people here would answer "Fish" but my answer would probably be "sit in my hammock with my book."
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Generally, yes, it should be fine. A couple of things to be aware of, though, which may necessitate additional research on your part:
Following up on this, it does have the reroutes on the map and notes about "sometime in 2015 or 2016", but doesn't have trail descriptions.
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Trail descriptions including the new section can be found here: http://www.nptrail.org

The new sections eliminated a significant portion of the roadwalks.
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Reading that the first 10+ miles are a roadwalk is almost enough to put me off the trip.
As DuctTape stated, the new re-routes have eliminated much of the road walking. In any case, the road-walking sections at the beginning and end of the trail were never required for a "certified" thru-hike, and most people skipped them.
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