Adirondack Forum  
Rules Membership Donations and Online Store Adkhighpeaks Foundation ADKhighpeaks Forums ADKhighpeaks Wiki Disclaimer

Go Back   Adirondack Forum > The Adirondack Forum > Hunting and Fishing in the Adirondacks
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 05-15-2018, 02:34 PM   #1
danseo96
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 1
Carrying an air rifle in the Adirondacks

My friends and I want to shoot some targets in the Adirondacks with some air rifles. Is that allowed?
danseo96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-15-2018, 03:00 PM   #2
DSettahr
ɹǝqɯǝɯ
 
DSettahr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,474
Generally, yes, target shooting is allowed on state land in the Adirondacks outside of any developed day use areas or campgrounds. A few important considerations:
  • You cannot use breakable targets. This includes glass bottles (or glass of any kind), clay pigeons, etc.
  • You cannot shoot at trees, or have a target adhered to a tree in a way that shooting at it will cause damage to the tree.
  • You must ensure that you have a safe backdrop. I.e., pick a spot where you're shooting into the side of a hill, and have a good view of what lies beyond your target. If you don't do this, you can be charged with reckless endangerment. (I know air rifles are less dangerous... but to quote somebody's mother, "you could still put someone's eye out." )
  • You technically do need to carry everything out with you. You should at least make an honest attempt to pick up all stray pellets- don't leave the area a mess with plastic or metal BB's scattered around (or whatever you're using). In general, metal BB's are probably better as the environmental impact is less if you miss a few.
DSettahr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 09:32 AM   #3
Terasec
Member
 
Terasec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 120
as ds stated
also double check specific area your going to,
making sure theres no further restrictions on such activities
general rules allow for such on most ADK lands, but specific areas with various land designations could have restrictions


(ab) No person shall possess breakable targets, including but not limited to clay pigeons, on State lands and no person shall target shoot at breakable targets, including but not limited to clay pigeons and glass containers, on State lands. Unless legally engaged in the act of hunting, no person shall discharge firearms on State lands posted or designated as closed to target shooting.

Last edited by Terasec; 05-17-2018 at 09:54 AM..
Terasec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 09:39 AM   #4
dockless
citizen
 
dockless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 119
Gone are the days when you could stick a marshmallow into the bark of a three foot wide tree for an instant backstop or throw a bad ping pong ball into the Mississippi River to have a moving, bouncing target. Glass light bulbs were easier to hit.....

Sounds like it would be good idea to shoot into a target that retains and traps the shot.

What could that be?
Do they make such a target. Possibly for a range in the basement.

All I can think of is a watermelon or pumpkin, but then they'd be a mess to carry out.

Last edited by dockless; 05-17-2018 at 05:31 PM.. Reason: Spelling
dockless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 10:39 AM   #5
JohnnyVirgil
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Porter Corners, NY
Posts: 715
You can probably find (or make) a lightweight pellet trap like this one.
JohnnyVirgil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2018, 01:15 PM   #6
Buckladd
Member
 
Buckladd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Hogtown
Posts: 937
Here's a portable one:
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/cros...ductextensions

Although, I'd personally enjoy watching someone try to pick up bunch of BBs or pellets they've fired.
__________________
Life's short, hunt hard!
Buckladd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2018, 01:34 PM   #7
equyst
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 14
following this thread
equyst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2018, 12:37 PM   #8
Bounder45
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 378
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSettahr View Post
[*] You must ensure that you have a safe backdrop. I.e., pick a spot where you're shooting into the side of a hill, and have a good view of what lies beyond your target. If you don't do this, you can be charged with reckless endangerment. (I know air rifles are less dangerous... but to quote somebody's mother, "you could still put someone's eye out." )[/LIST]

DSettahr laid out some good fundamentals. I will point out that in most areas of the ADK's, you will not have a good view of anything beyond your immediate target area.

Picking a good backstop is important for this reason. There are some old dug outs (rock, gravel pits) along backcountry roads where you can be pretty well certain your shot won't affect anyone else, short of shooting up into the sky at an angle.

However, there are many areas where such definite backstops are not available. The combination of hilly terrain and vegetation (trees) will soak up bullets and serves as a backstop of sorts; I think in most areas a centerfire cartridge would be lucky to travel 400-500 yards before coming to a rest.

If you're going to fire in an area that lacks a definite backstop, make sure you've scouted the area and look on a map for nearby trails or waterways.
I would avoid target shooting into areas that has potential traffic (foot or water) within 3k yards of your direction of fire, just to be safe.
Pellet projectiles obviously don't travel as far as conventional rifle rounds, but the same fundamentals apply.
Bounder45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 07:57 AM   #9
mgc
Member
 
mgc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 312
Backstops and safety considerations aside, also be certain to become familiar with NYS hunting season dates. It is illegal to carry a pellet gun/air rifle during most of the seasons. If you are found carrying an air rifle in the woods during an active season you could end up with a citation.
If you are carrying an air rifle during small game season, be sure that you have a hunting license. Air rifles may be used to hunt squirrels, rabbits, hares, ruffed grouse, and furbearers that may be hunted (e.g., raccoons and coyotes) and unprotected species.
Air guns may not be used to hunt waterfowl, pheasant, wild turkey, or big game so carrying one during these seasons could get you in trouble.
Yes, it's just an air gun, but by definition, it is considered to be "an implement".
mgc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 09:56 AM   #10
adkman12986
Member
 
adkman12986's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tupper Lake
Posts: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgc View Post
Backstops and safety considerations aside, also be certain to become familiar with NYS hunting season dates. It is illegal to carry a pellet gun/air rifle during most of the seasons. If you are found carrying an air rifle in the woods during an active season you could end up with a citation.
If you are carrying an air rifle during small game season, be sure that you have a hunting license. Air rifles may be used to hunt squirrels, rabbits, hares, ruffed grouse, and furbearers that may be hunted (e.g., raccoons and coyotes) and unprotected species.
Air guns may not be used to hunt waterfowl, pheasant, wild turkey, or big game so carrying one during these seasons could get you in trouble.
Yes, it's just an air gun, but by definition, it is considered to be "an implement".
If you are not engaged in the act of hunting in any way you can carry any type of fire are in the woods to target practice. We just had the question come up at a recent Sportsman Education Class and the ECO stated " You may carry a firearm in the woods to target practice anytime as long as you are not engaging in hunting anything protected by a season or not."
adkman12986 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 10:51 AM   #11
JohnnyVirgil
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Porter Corners, NY
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by adkman12986 View Post
If you are not engaged in the act of hunting in any way you can carry any type of fire are in the woods to target practice. We just had the question come up at a recent Sportsman Education Class and the ECO stated " You may carry a firearm in the woods to target practice anytime as long as you are not engaging in hunting anything protected by a season or not."
That makes more sense. I was wondering about people who have pistol permits. To not allow them to carry without a hunting license would be weird.
JohnnyVirgil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2018, 04:54 PM   #12
Bounder45
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 378
You can also carry a firearm afield simply because it's allowed by NYS law.

If you have a pistol permit, you're allowed to carry (doesn't even have to be concealed) on state land.
If you legally own a rifle or shotgun, same thing applies.

Certain restrictions apply. For example, bow hunters aren't allowed to carry any firearms, even pistols, during their season. Also certain easements (which are open to public foot traffic) forbid firearms outside of hunting season (the trails around Ausable Lake are an example).

Target practice or game recovery would be the only 2 logical reasons for me to carry outside of hunting season, but those justifications are not required to carry on state land....just FYI.
Bounder45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

DISCLAIMER: Use of these forums, and information found herein, is at your own risk. Use of this site by members and non-members alike is only granted by the adkhighpeak.com administration provided the terms and conditions found in the FULL DISCLAIMER have been read. Continued use of this site implies that you have read, understood and agree to the terms and conditions of this site. Any questions can be directed to the Administrator of this site.