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Help with tresspessing
Tredhed and I went up to the family cabin today to do a little light shoveling on the roof. When we got there, we immediately noticed that some individual had driven their vehicle through the three feet of snow on our front lawn, stopping only when they hit the rock wall around the well head (where the bird feeder hook is in the photo).
There appeared to be snowmobile tracks near the back of the disturbed area, indicating that they had either loaded or unloaded their machine in our front lawn. While certainly not the best lawn in the neighborhood, I'm a little disturbed by someone driving across our lawn because it was convenient for them to load their sled and turn their truck around. We go through this every winter and even in the summer some people decide it's OK to turn their boat trailer around in our front yard. I certainly don't want to slam all snowmobile riders. 99% are awesome people who enjoy the sport and respect others. However, I'd like to ask members of the forum what we can do to deter this behavior on our property (preferably something that doesn't violate the National Firearms Act of 1934). We put up a span of caution tape and thought of large rocks, game cams, and asking for more ranger/police patrols. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks folks TM
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Can you gate the driveway at your property boundary? Do you have "No trespassing signs up now?
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Drive way is gated, no trespassing signs are posted. I called the NYS Police, but they said there's nothing they can do unless they catch the guy in the act. I knew that, but...
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Hopefully with the cams you at least get a plate or something if they come back. That should be enough for the police to track them down.
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Idiots are everywhere!
I second the game camera, in a discreet location so it can't be tampered with or stolen. Might be shocked what you see. I had a friend who did this and he was surprised to see people peeking in windows and trying door locks!
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I know a guy with a dog that will watch the camp for you on his days off...free of charge.
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Trail cam and nail strips...disguised to look like construction debris.
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The old pieces of telephone pole or similar laying on the ground and tied down and with or without spikes sticking up deters many.
When people ignore signs and gates you really have a problem. I thought for sure when I began reading this thread your place had been broken into, and it may come to that so be very careful of what you leave behind. It sucks, but its reality. |
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When I spoke to the Forest Ranger a few years ago on the subject of snowmobile trespessing, he said he was pretty sure he knew who was doing it. However, without evidence, there was nothing he could do. About ten years ago, I yelled at a guy riding a snowmobile across our lakefront in order to load it into the back of his POS pickup. He didn't see a problem with doing it. "I have to get it into my truck" ![]()
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One 'decoy' trail cam should go in a prominent place where it is easily spotted (the "smile, you're on camera" signs don't seem to work anymore) while two more are placed in discrete spots (preferably in security boxes). One should cover the driveway one should cover the cabin and decoy.
If you have cell signal at the cabin, you can get away with one trail cam that will transmit a pic at the time taken. It is what it is, the 'law' won't even take a report unless you produce evidence of trespass and time it occurred.
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I know it's an annoyance, but are they doing any damage?. I've seen much worse. Do you think it's locals?
The "decoy" trail cam with a backup was the same idea I had.
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1 1/4 inch Spikes on plywood strips. Hide the spikes with beer cans.
I put up a low rock wall, low enough that the rock will be dislodged into a windshi |
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Damage? I won't know until the snow melts a little more. It looks like they hit the patio block wall I put around the well-head with the front of their truck. The wall I can repair with a little effort. If the well-head was damaged or the pipe bent, it's a little more serious. In the past, trespassers have run over our boat, picnic table and dock frame with their sleds. I'm not saying it's the same crew, but they're cut from the same cloth. As far as them being local; I don't know. It really doesn't matter to me if they are from just down the road or the other side of the universe. I just want them to stop driving on my lawn.
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I'll throw in my agreement with the large rocks/boulders or the long utility pole type of barrier. Of course a trail cam or two will be a bonus. Please keep us posted on what happens and if you catch the perps. Thanks, and good luck.
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Springtime rustic stockade fence project for JCFarrell.
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Well it looks like your lawn was "navigable" for them. Better be careful - soon they'll find some judge who says they have a right to drive on it.
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you just need to have the "pointy ends" of the pickets stick outward instead of up.
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