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Old 07-31-2015, 02:55 PM   #1
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Trailers at Lake Lila

I didn't think a trailer could be parked at the Lake Lila parking area. My son was there over the 4th this year and he took a trailer. He and his buddy just put it in front of their car after they unloaded. He said there were other trailers parked in a similar manner so they did not take up any parking.

Can anyone comment on trailers at Lake Lila? I have a trailer I use for a small fishing boat that I was thinking about putting my canoe on for a Lake Lila trip. Thank you.
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Old 07-31-2015, 04:45 PM   #2
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I could be wrong, but I don't think they are permitted as the parking lot will only hold about 18 vehicles, IIRC. Roadside parking is not permitted as it's private land until you actually reach the parking area. You might be best to give the ranger for that area a call.
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Old 08-01-2015, 12:21 PM   #3
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I don't recall any indication that trailers aren't allowed into the Lila parking area. Given the small lot however, you would want to be able to maneuver the trailer separate from the vehicle, and place it so as not to block passage for others. I do believe I've seen a boat trailer there before. The road has some rough spots, so go slow.

I would not recommend a sleeping trailer and I suspect no camping is permitted in the lot. The 150 ft rule would apply.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:22 AM   #4
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I saw a boat trailer there yesterday. The right side of the lot is grass and deep enough to back way in. Turning around could be a challenge if the lot was full. The were no signs on the way in prohibiting trailers.

Lila seems way more crowded than it used to be. Tough to find firewood. Was windy for 3 days straight. I did enjoy a nice calm paddle up SS brook and walked the (now overgrown) trail time Lily pad pond.

Saw a few folks using wheels but all had 2 people helping with the boats.

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Old 08-10-2015, 05:45 PM   #5
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I haven't been camping there in 25 years. My son was just there and really thinks the island sites are cool. I read where the island sites get pretty ragged and firewood is tough to find. Any thoughts on that? Thanks.
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Old 08-11-2015, 03:58 AM   #6
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I don't doubt it. Island sites (and waterfront sites in general) tend to be pretty popular. It isn't uncommon that at popular sites, the rate of wood consumption as fuel for campfires often exceeds the rate of dead and downed wood production over quite a large area (this is why fires are banned in the Eastern High Peaks). Since the amount of surface area that exists to support island sites is often limited to the size of the island, it isn't at all uncommon that some smaller islands can quickly become picked clean with regular traffic.

There's a few things you can do to help the situation, such as bringing your own firewood (be sure to abide by NYS Firewood Regulations, especially the prohibitions against transporting untreated wood more than 50 miles), and by following Leave No Trace ethics with regards to campfires: Keep your fires small in both size and duration, use only small pieces of wood that can be broken by hand, use stoves for cooking instead of fires, and if it is obvious that a site has been significantly affected by campfire impacts, perhaps chose not to even have a fire at all.
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Old 08-15-2015, 12:04 PM   #7
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I have found there to be plenty of firewood on Lake Lila, if you're willing to work a bit for it. Paddle around the shorelines and you will find plenty of driftwood for small campfires to be had.

The "no fire" regulations in the Eastern High Peaks has always been a sore subject with me. I had been hiking/camping this area for over 20 years and never found getting firewood a problem or seen many areas that were barren and trompled down except maybe at Marcy Dam and around Lake Colden where there is waaaay to many unknowledgeable people that camp there. Putting a "no fire" ban on the entire area was ridiculous! Many rangers have agreed with me that there should have been some type of mandatory education/training put in place for people that go to areas like the Eastern High Peaks that are overcrowded and overused rather than banning fires for everyone. I have been snowed on in August in the High Peak Region and a fire was absolutely necessary. I tried one trip without campfires in September the same year they put the ban into place. Returning to base-camp with 30 degree temps after a 15 mile hike over three mountains and not being able to have a fire at the end of the day was miserable, especially being able able to see downed and dead wood all around me...lol. Quite frankly (just my opinion), there are waaaaay to many people that go into the back-country that have no idea what they're doing and no respect for wilderness areas. I do not and have not trekked into the Eastern High Peaks on any extended trips, other than day hikes, since that last trip twenty years ago. It's a shame that others have ruined a good thing for those of us that respected what once was a pristine and beautiful wilderness experience.
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Old 08-15-2015, 01:45 PM   #8
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Island sites do get pretty hammered. You can always see the trend. Come spring there will be plenty of wood from winter storms breaking branches and taking down trees and by August it will be completely bare.

Problems start around there, and it's just usually from laziness when people start cutting trees. Green trees don't burn well anyway, so I don't see the point.

Foraging in other areas I suppose has some impact, but it's probably not that bad. This is what I do if I'm in a high use area. Once in a while I'll even throw some Stewarts wood in the canoe if I don't have to carry it far (hardwoods are far better for cooking too!).

I also find it quite humorous in some areas how 'clean' the forest becomes and then when you venture off you remember what it is supposed to look like! I stayed at the site on Osprey Island on Blue Mtn Lake for a night earlier this summer and it was like that. It looks like a golf course about 300 yds radially from the campsite but as you venture off it's a a jumbled mess. I brought wood because it's so easy to do, but I didn't need to.

I don't know if the stripping really affects these islands... I suppose it does deteriorate the natural cycle of replenishing nutrients back to the soils, but there is a lot of other organic matter that decays that humans don't burn. Islands are always popular, but I'd say it is a place you want to take special care to preserve.
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