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Old 04-26-2017, 06:21 AM   #1
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Valley hikes south of the High Peaks?

I'm interested in doing a 2-3 day valley hike and have noted a possibility that would connect Kings Flow with the Sacandaga and Rte 8 (with perhaps a side dish of whacking a small peak or two) . I also noticed a combination trail-peak-bushwhack that would connect Pillsbury with Little Moose (although I suppose the Moose R. plains road is not open yet). I have done a loop through West Canada Lakes but wondered if there were side loops possible or with two cars perhaps stretching the hike out along the NPT.

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Old 04-26-2017, 11:28 AM   #2
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Are you looking for trailed, un-trailed, or a mix?

On that route you mentioned, the Big Range would be an interesting place to visit. I've never been there, but I think forum member BigRange has been, and might have some good info.

In the Siamese Ponds Wilderness, fairly long trips can be put together from Kings Flow towards 13th Lake.

Farther south, you might be able to piece something together in the long valley that hosts Lens Lake and Livingston Lake.
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Just a quick note on Kings Flow...
I'm pretty sure that you need permission from the land owner to use the trail along the east side of Kings Flow, or to cross the dam at the oulet.
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Are you looking for trailed, un-trailed, or a mix?
A mix I guess with more trails than whacking.
I have done a Big Range to 11th traverse via County Line and Siamese Pond. Pretty quiet in there.

Also once did a Kings Flow to Puffer Mtn to Gore whack. This time out I'd like to keep the elly gain (elly loss more like) to a minimum. I'm rehabbing a pat-fem syndrome and flat land hiking is fine in unlimited quantities but descending irritates it.
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Has anyone here hiked the following trails?
French Louis, Lost Pond, Otter Brook, Cedar Lakes, Sucker Brook?
Was looking at a loop with an out and back portion starting at Sled Harbour to Lewey Lake (or vice versa) involving some or all of Pillsbury Mtn, Cedar Lakes Trail, Lost Pond and Otter Brook trails, the NPT and the Sucker Brook Trail. Is the Sucker Brook trail still maintained? Also, are there any lean-to's in the area?

Obviously I don't have a trail map of the region. I'm relying on a combination of USGS quads in NG Topo! and good old Google.

We have 3 days incidentally.

Edit: What I can see are LT's south of Little Moose on Cedar Lakes and another at the south end of Cedar R. flow. Could hike in to Cedar Lakes on day 1. Do a RT of Mansbury on Day2 then move up to the LT at Cedar R. Flow and hike out to Lewey L. on day 3. Make sense?
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Old 04-26-2017, 05:52 PM   #7
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Does this help?

https://adirondackatlas.org/?token=d...467cc5f5846dd9

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I should point out that the Adirondack Atlas gets its lean-to data from information published by the DEC. That's not as reliable as one may think. I know of several instances (in the High Peaks) where they show either non-existent lean-tos or they're in the wrong place. So take the map's lean-to and trail info with a grain of salt.
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Haha! How do you search that site?

There's another LT at Colvin Brook. Even better!
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In 2013 I came in from Otter Brook Rd and did a loop over to the Lost Pond trail(which was very lost, in a few places,) past Cedar Lakes, and the West Canada lakes and out via Brooktrout Lake and out via Falls Pond. It was a nice loop and I spent two nights, one a the north Cedar Lakes area and the second in the Brooktrout Lake lean-to since it was raining hard. I bushwhacked to the cliffs the look south over West Lake but found only limited views due to heavy trees along the top. Just where the north end of the Lost Pond trail connects to the old logging road there is a neat old skidding arch on tracks which is definitely worth a minute if you're in the area anyway.
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...starting at Sled Harbour...
Just an FYI... Perkins Clearing Road & the Jessup River Road are probably not opened yet.
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How about a Pharaoh Lake Wilderness traverse beginning (or ending) at the Long Swing Trailhead (AKA the Blue Hill trail) on Route 74, and ending (or beginning) at the Springhill Ponds/Berrymill Pond trailhead on West Hague Rd?
Gorgeous area with plenty in between to keep you occupied for a couple days or more.
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Just an FYI... Perkins Clearing Road & the Jessup River Road are probably not opened yet.
Oh.

Guess I don't know that neck of the woods all that well, huh?
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Guess I don't know that neck of the woods all that well, huh?
Nothing wrong with wanting to explore some new territory.
Didn't you 'whack Pillsbury Mountain once already years ago?
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Didn't you 'whack Pillsbury Mountain once already years ago?
I whacked all the ADK-HH peaks a few years back plus a bunch of other 3K peaks like Snowy South, County Line Mtn. etc.

I'm a little shaky on access points.
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How about a Pharaoh Lake Wilderness traverse beginning (or ending) at the Long Swing Trailhead (AKA the Blue Hill trail) on Route 74, and ending (or beginning) at the Springhill Ponds/Berrymill Pond trailhead on West Hague Rd?
Gorgeous area with plenty in between to keep you occupied for a couple days or more.
Interesting. And closer to home!
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Jumping all over the map here. Justin (or anyone else) have you done much in the Five Ponds Wilderness?
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Interesting. And closer to home!
For a fun bushwhack fix I highly recommend the ledges near & above the Devil's Washdish. Sorry, I have fairly limited experience in the 5 ponds.
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I went to Pharaoh. Set up at Oxshoe Pond LT. Whacked all along below the cliffs of Treadway then back the other way on top of the ledges to the summit. Thanks for the hint!

Then I whacked Bear, Potter and Pine Hill Mts and finished off this morning with Pharaoh Mtn.

Very nice area! Busy in summer? (I would think)

Thanks again!
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Cool!

Potter is one of my favorites.
Yeah, some trails & lean-to areas can be pretty busy, not so much in the trail-less areas.
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People were parked at Crane Pond.

Btw, when was the fire? I went up Bear from the east end of Crane Pond and the whole way up was scorched.
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