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Not all moose have antlers. Yearlings and females do not. At 244 lbs this was a very young moose.
I could point out that a moose is a deer. And the small ones in cover and poor ligt can be mistaken for whitetail deer.
We have both here; though way more deer.. When you don't take the time to get a good look , errors are possible.
I don't know if the shooting was a mistake or not but the possibility is real. At any rate the death is a sad event.
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I doubt this was an honest mistake. One can only fire a weapon if they are 110% sure what they are shooting at and what is behind their target. Any other shot is unethical. Only a fool can mistake a Moose for a deer. This represents a total lack of respect for the natural world (the world we live in). The person who did this should not be allowed to own any weapons. Next time they may fire on another hunter or hiker.
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Moose are a deer, just as a Great Dane, Poodles and Wolves are dog's.
Shooting anything you can't clearly see and thus identify is 100% wrong. How people and animals get "accidentally" maimed, wounded or killed. Zero excuses. I am all for hunting, have hunted all my life, have passed up many shots because I didn't "like" something…. but 100% against poaching and especially irresponsible gun handling.
Thus, due to the disregard for any adherence to laws and safety in any scenario, the fact that they did not own up to it, makes it a crime and should be prosecuted in everyone who enters the woods interest.
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Originally posted by RichieC View PostMoose are a deer, just as a Great Dane, Poodles and Wolves are dog's.
Shooting anything you can't clearly see and thus identify is 100% wrong. How people and animals get "accidentally" maimed, wounded or killed. Zero excuses. I am all for hunting, have hunted all my life, have passed up many shots because I didn't "like" something…. but 100% against poaching and especially irresponsible gun handling.
Thus, due to the disregard for any adherence to laws and safety in any scenario, the fact that they did not own up to it, makes it a crime and should be prosecuted in everyone who enters the woods interest."Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency."
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Yes, RichieC, summed it up as well as others. This guy needs to be punished very severely. How do you shoot a moose instead of a deer. The snout is huge and their ears are very long and tall... come on!! Makes me want to think more about quitting hunting... Very scary...."Get your mind off trout,if you can.I know they`ve got you.I can see it. Every fraternity of sufferers knows its brothers.Trout hook men;men don`t hook trout.Better try and throw the hook while you can.By the time you`re a grown man there probably won`t be a pure trout healthy enough to fiddle with"... Quote from Emerson in the book "The Earth Is Enough"by Harry Middleton
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Originally posted by cityboy View PostI put this here since it doesn't belong in "Hunting". Very sad to see. There's no way a Moose can be mistaken for a deer. It didn't even have antlers.
NEWCOMB >> An investigation is continuing in the case of moose that was found shot and killed in the town of Newcomb earlier this month. A Santanoni Club caretaker contacted state Department …
Hope they catch the guy.
I agree it's sad. But with Vermont issuing Moose hunting permits we nextdoor are also on the verge of having a sustainable and harvest-able Moose population here in the ADKs. So it is not the end of the world.
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Originally posted by rADK View PostEh...Every year during rifle season somewhere, somehow, people get mistaken for deer. Though it is not acceptable, one can see how it happens.
I agree it's sad. But with Vermont issuing Moose hunting permits we nextdoor are also on the verge of having a sustainable and harvest-able Moose population here in the ADKs. So it is not the end of the world.
I also tend to immediately think that any hunter who could mistake a moose (ar anything else, for that matter) for a deer is irresponsible and dangerous, but then I remember there are some possibilities.... I read a very interesting piece on "early blur" a long while back, and something about some psychological effects that can have a person believing he is seeing something that he is not.
My gut feeling is that making that kind of "mistake" is unforgivable, but I'm not so quick to condemn any more. You never know....
As for the ADK moose population, fear not! They're gaining ground and a DEC employee who is in-the-know told me to expect a hunting season eventually.
Take it easy,
Bob
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The Adirondack Moose population has not been growing at anywhere near expected levels and the DEC has recently implemented programs to better track the population and try to understand why.
And the fact that there are people walking around in the woods with guns that - for whatever reason - mistake moose for deer is not surprising (given how often people and dogs and the like are mistaken for deer), but it is pretty terrifying to think about sharing the woods with them.Last edited by Holdstrong; 12-23-2014, 10:55 AM.
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Originally posted by Holdstrong View PostAnd the fact that there are people walking around in the woods with guns that - for whatever reason - mistake moose for deer is not surprising (given how often people and dogs and the like are mistaken for deer), but it is pretty terrifying to think about sharing the woods with them.
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Originally posted by St.Regis View PostHoldstrong - Yes, the person that shot the moose was stupid. Yes, even the very few hunting accidents that happen each season suck. But you really seem to be overly paranoid about hunters. Your posts, in general, make it sound like you actually believe there's a lunatic hunter behind every tree, which is certainly not the case. Maybe you should attend a hunters safety course and see how well new hunters are taught safety and ethics.
Try walking around the Catskills during deer season and tell me you feel safe. There are too many knuckleheads in that pursuit that give the good ones a black eye.“Once there were brook trout in the streams in the mountains. They smelled of moss in your hand. On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery.”
― Cormac McCarthy
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Glen, I do get what you are saying about knuckleheads, but there was not one separate shooter and victim accident in the Catskills in 2013 deer season. Anything from Greene, Delaware, Sullivan (Catskill counties) was self-inflicted.
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St Regis,
I don't dispute the facts. It's my own irrational fear knowing that a lot of weekend warriors are out there with itchy fingers. The closer downstate the worse I think it gets.“Once there were brook trout in the streams in the mountains. They smelled of moss in your hand. On their backs were vermiculate patterns that were maps of the world in its becoming. Maps and mazes. Of a thing which could not be put back. Not be made right again. In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery.”
― Cormac McCarthy
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