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Old 08-21-2017, 04:25 PM   #1
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Secracy

I really don't understand this.
It's one thing if you protect the location of a "secret pond", but truth be known, there are no secrets.
All of the ponds, lakes and rivers have been hunted and fished for generations.
My favorite deer hunting spot is in the Siamese area, about three miles from the road on Big shanty Mtn.
If someone wants to take the effort to set up a camp there, more power to him.
I would find a kindred soul.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:28 PM   #2
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Yes, let's make sure the remaining productive ponds get scoured by the hordes whose idea of putting time in is reading internet forum posts. Good lord.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:36 PM   #3
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Is this or is it not a public forum????
If not, a separate forum should be created.
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Old 08-21-2017, 06:06 PM   #4
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I'm a big fan of the "Private Message" feature of this forum, and I use it often, especially when it comes to fishing & other sensitive issues & areas.
IMO certain things just shouldn't be shared publicly on an free & open internet forum with thousands of viewers everyday. Lord knows that I've learned this the hard way.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:08 PM   #5
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Is this or is it not a public forum????
If not, a separate forum should be created.
Are you bored or do you just automatically trot this out once a month? You've been here long enough to know those who participate in this forum. We help anyone who asks for advice within reason but this is not the good 'ol days. But you know this and just want to stir the pot.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:40 PM   #6
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But you know this and just want to stir the pot.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:12 PM   #7
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I miss the days on some of my favorite spots before internet and people too free with information killed them. Maybe it has to happen to some people before they learn the true damage that can be done.
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:09 AM   #8
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Google Earth shares all those secret ponds with anyone with a connection. Only one way though to know if there's fish there: ask someone on the internet. As a last resort a person could actually go there.
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:44 AM   #9
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between asking someone, or going yourself... there are also plenty of other resources available to indicate fishiness of a pond, but it takes some effort. Not much though. UMPs and fish stocking data are where I would direct the newbie researcher.
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:40 AM   #10
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Isn't it spelled secrEcy?
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:14 AM   #11
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Here is a great example of recent "spot burning" due to internet and social media. At least it is a swimming hole and not a heritage brook trout water!! Look at all the people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/n...s.html?mcubz=3
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:23 AM   #12
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Sounds just like the ADK and the High Peaks
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:25 AM   #13
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Here is a great example of recent "spot burning" due to internet and social media. At least it is a swimming hole and not a heritage brook trout water!! Look at all the people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/20/n...s.html?mcubz=3
Town of Denning
Enforcement: Over the weekend, Forest Rangers working the Peekamoose Corridor, which includes the popular Blue Hole destination, estimated nearly 1,200 people visited the area. Several tickets were issued to individuals violating various state land use regulations.

That picture is being kind. http://www.watershedpost.com/2015/tr...swimming-holes
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:09 PM   #14
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The peekamoose blue hole is/was a great brook trout stream. I can't stomach to go there any more.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:20 PM   #15
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Wow! All of a sudden I understand all the no parking signs along 23B to Haines Falls. I enlarged that picture linked above. Looks like that place is going to be packed until ice shows up.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:39 PM   #16
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The peekamoose blue hole is/was a great brook trout stream. I can't stomach to go there any more.
It's nice in November!
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:41 PM   #17
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spot burning premise is for idiots
it started with NE commercial fishermen who didnt want to reveal their honey holes because that was their livelihood,
then recreational fishermen started doing the same thing
its just absolutely ridiculous
i fish, and have no problem telling people how it went and where
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Old 08-22-2017, 01:13 PM   #18
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i fish, and have no problem telling people how it went and where
Or what you used to catch them...

I'd share my knowledge, but I'm a lousy fisherman!

I do feel that competition can equate to a level of greed for sportsmen. I hate it every time I read an article or see a TV show where they're telling someone how to keep deer on their property and away from their neighbors.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:07 PM   #19
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No comparison between the ocean or large bodies of water and the remote wild ponds that can not withstand high fishing pressure and abuse. Idiots can't see the difference.
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Old 08-22-2017, 03:47 PM   #20
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Are you bored or do you just automatically trot this out once a month? You've been here long enough to know those who participate in this forum. We help anyone who asks for advice within reason but this is not the good 'ol days. But you know this and just want to stir the pot.
Respectfully, Glen.
Every square foot of our mountains have been trod on for over 200 years.
Every stream and pond has been fished for that long.
There are no secret spots.
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