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Jackson 06-18-2012 04:27 PM

Bigfoot sightings? (serious question)
 
I am wondering if anyone has seen or heard a suspected Sasquatch in the ADKS......or do you believe they exist? I had read some stories of suspected Sasquatch sightings-or evidence of suspected Sasquatch/Bigfoot in the ADKS.

wiiawiwb 06-18-2012 04:55 PM

One has only to visit certain Bigfoot-related websites to read published reports of sightings in NYS, in general, and the Adirondacks in particular. Are they true? Who can say.

There are also a few good books about the subject including Monsters of The Northwoods. That books chronicles many sightings dating back centuries including the earliest accounts of Sasquatch reported in 1603 by Samuel de Champlain.

I'm a believer. Others may be on the fence or even true-blue skeptics. That's their choice but I'm convinced they exist in the Adirondacks.

Jackson 06-18-2012 05:20 PM

thanks for the reply. I also am a believer...far too many reports and sightings from all ovrer the globe to be a hoax or a mistaken identification. I go to this website alot:
http://www.bfro.net and there are reports from pretty much every state, there are alot for New York.
there is even a "Bigfoot 911 call" recording on YouTube....a man saw a suspected Bigfoot in his yard one night.
I think it is something that needs to be researched, and if there is indeed a Bigfoot found, I hope it is captured safely, studied, then released back into the wild. I am sure there would have to be alot of tranquilizers involved ! Would not want to see it harmed.

wiiawiwb 06-18-2012 06:02 PM

Here is a link that will get you to many BF-related websites:

http://www.stancourtney.com/squatchmarks.html

Also, in your internet travels, keep your eyes peeled for someone by the name of Dr. Melba Ketchum and a report that bears her name.

geogymn 06-18-2012 08:11 PM

There are going to be a lot more believers now that the Vibram five fingers are becoming popular.

wiiawiwb 06-26-2012 10:58 PM

No doubt there will be but only to the untrained eye.

cityboy 06-27-2012 08:48 AM

No sightings but I'm a believer. I am skeptical though about any sightings outside of Western Canada and the pacific Northwest.
My belief will change if no body is discovered within the next 15 years. People masquarding as bigfoot using Vibram five fingers costumes should avoid the Newcomb area since I'm a firm believer that only a body will constitute real proof. I would fire a warning shot first though. If unarmed I'm probably one of the few that would run towards not away from the animal.

Jackson 06-27-2012 09:37 AM

@Cityboy, I am with you on that, a body of a Bigfoot would be definitive proof, so it can be studied, DNA samples taken, etc.... All the videos and photos I've seen have been grainy, dark, shaky, etc. I had seen a story of a suspected Bigfoot near a fishing camp in Canada. The owner supposedly set a booby trap and got some blood and hair samples, then he "lost" it........

adk 06-27-2012 05:19 PM

I must admit that I simply can not get my mind around the idea of a primate relative that large living around us and yet never having a single genetic sample, anywhere from any region. I think that despite the size of the Adirondacks, it is not of a size that would allow for that sort of a massive, yet still "completely" hidden species. I would love to be incorrect because I would certainly enjoy learning about such an animal or whatever classification it was given however as fantastic as it sounds, it sounds too fantastic and extremely unlikely IMHO. I feel the same about "Champ", would love to see it but doubt that such a species could live in the depths of Lake Champlain without having been brought to the surface or washed ashore at some point...

HappyHiker 06-27-2012 09:41 PM

It only makes sense to me if bigfoot is a space alien or time traveler just visiting. I do not think it is possible for a whole species as large as bigfoot to go unnoticed for so long.

burrswildlife 07-18-2012 03:10 AM

Well I think its just a hoax, nothing else. The stories that you have read about the Sasquatch and big foot are just stories nothing else.

Wldrns 07-18-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burrswildlife (Post 188752)
Well I think its just a hoax, nothing else. The stories that you have read about the Sasquatch and big foot are just stories nothing else.

Well then you probably don't believe in Nessie or our very own Champ either... but here in print on the internet is the absolute proof! :dance:

wiiawiwb 07-18-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyHiker (Post 187936)
It only makes sense to me if bigfoot is a space alien or time traveler just visiting. I do not think it is possible for a whole species as large as bigfoot to go unnoticed for so long.

It hasn't gone unnoticed. It's gone quite noticed. The first reports of BF in NYS were by communicated by Samuel de Champlain in ~1603.

Those who insist upon "proof" may want to follow work that is currently being done by Dr. Melba Ketchum.

There are many things in the vast animal world that don't make sense. I've posted here before that it wasn't until September 2004 that any fossilized remains of chimpanzees were found until a few teeth were discovered by Dr. Nina Jablonski in Kenya's Rift Valley. It is estimated that over 100 billion chimps have existed in Africa during the past 5-7 million years and yet no fossilized remains found until 2004.

So for those who say, "Where's the BF body?", kindly digest the, "Where were all the Chimps?" issue. In that regard, the numbers of chimps are vast to the guesstimate of how many BF may exist here in the the US. Moreover, the efforts to find any fossilized remains of chimps were financially underwritten whereas the efforts to find BF is largely paid for by those volunteers out in the forests who devote their own time and money.

Gman 07-19-2012 03:32 PM

Champlain never said he saw a BF. He mentions a Native legend of a big hairy beast that ate humans but then all early (and apparently a few modern) cultures around the world have there legends.

Dr Melba Ketchum is a fraud. The world is getting tired of waiting for her to produce the evidence she claims to have.

What does billion year old chimp fossils have to do with this? Where are the bigfoot bones?

poconoron 07-20-2012 11:19 AM

Responding to the "serious question", I find it stunning and stupefying that anyone would take this issue seriously.

Just me, I guess...........

wiiawiwb 07-20-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman (Post 188818)
Champlain never said he saw a BF. He mentions a Native legend of a big hairy beast that ate humans but then all early (and apparently a few modern) cultures around the world have there legends.

Dr Melba Ketchum is a fraud. The world is getting tired of waiting for her to produce the evidence she claims to have.

What does billion year old chimp fossils have to do with this? Where are the bigfoot bones?

I never said Champlain saw a BF. You need to read posts more carefully before commenting.

As far as the chimps are concerned....if you can't connect dots, I'm not going to hold your hand.

Gman 07-21-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiiawiwb (Post 188852)
I never said Champlain saw a BF. You need to read posts more carefully before commenting.

As far as the chimps are concerned....if you can't connect dots, I'm not going to hold your hand.

You likely do not know it but you are referencing Des Sauvages where Champlain writes of a beast called Gougou which is tall as a ship mast, considered female and lives near Chaleur Bay in New Brunswick not NY State. You are correct that it was written in 1603 however Champlain did set foot in NY State until 1609 nor was he anywhere near it before 1608.

I am not very smart so please connect the dots for me or perhaps someone else can explain what chimp fossils in Africa have to do with bigfoot in NY State.

I agree with Poconoron.

wiiawiwb 07-21-2012 03:34 PM

Everyone on this forum is entitled to his, or her, opinion. That's what makes it enjoyable.

Pumpkin QAAD 07-21-2012 05:49 PM

I always imagined the big foot stories come from the last few surviving neanderthal or cro-magnon's and oral traditions.

I wouldn't need bones but certainly skat or signs of habitation such as teeth marks on bone would be a good first step.

Justin 07-21-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gman (Post 188893)
perhaps someone else can explain what chimp fossils in Africa have to do with bigfoot in NY State.

I think I can help...
Chimp fossils have been found in Africa in 2004.
Chimp and/or Bigfoot fossils have never been found in NY State.
See the connection? :D


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