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l'oiseau 12-06-2013 11:31 AM

BC Snow Reports
 
Would it be possible for people to post snow updates here?

Lets say add a date, region (or unit), and snow depth and type...

I know there are web plots that show snow-depth and coverage but they aren't always as reliable as first hand information.

This would be very helpful for those of us who live far away and head up with intentions of skiing determine when and where to go.

(Trip reports help but they are few and far between on here these days and the other forum only covers high peaks).

rdl 12-06-2013 02:20 PM

I refer to this site often for current conditions in the High Peaks region: http://www.jackrabbittrail.org/conditions.html

The BREIA conditions page is probably a good indicator of conditions in the SW part of the park: http://breiax-countryski.org/trail_conditions.php5

Other parts of the park ???

l'oiseau 12-06-2013 04:46 PM

:thumbs:

Nice links.

I was hoping for an ongoing community response throughout the winter.

Bob K 12-06-2013 05:01 PM

Another site to check for Lake Placid area skiing is here though this seems to have delayed info at times: http://www.adkbcski.com/condition/ The Garnet Hill and Lapland Lake XC centers normally have good up-to date conditions reports on their web sites. However, since they groom, often they have better conditions than ungroomed locations. If they report recent powder, the woods nearby is normally good skiing.

I'd encourage ADK skiers who go into the woods to post trip reports here. There aren't enough. Unlike summer hiking, I think the risk of a large quantity of people heading for the places people will post about is low. There just aren't that many adventurous XC skiers willing to tough it out on ungroomed terrain.

Getting timely first-hand info from skiers is very helpful. Knowing the condition of the snow, not just coverage or depth can greatly impact the quality of skiing, ability required for a trip, and equipment selection. I often have several skis with me and select once i get to a trail based on the conditions and if the trail has been tracked of not. If it's deep but icy, I don't want to risk it in the woods and either don't go, or pay at a groomed area.

l'oiseau 12-06-2013 05:06 PM

Yeah I doubt many of the trails will get skied out in the park.

Locally they do. The snow we received before Thanksgiving weekend went from excellent conditions and unbroken trails to a hard and icy groove in a matter of 3 days. The increase in temperature and a lot of traffic on skis, snowshoes and bare boots without any fresh accumulation killed it quick.

l'oiseau 12-08-2013 06:37 PM

My snow report as of 12/08:

Lake George Area - No snow!
Wells/Speculator Area - Icy crust 1~2in in areas
South western area of the park (Russia/Morehouse) had the most snow I saw. Maybe 2 to 5in, some fresh.

Wldrns 12-08-2013 06:59 PM

7 December, working on the replacement bridge over Calkins Brook with the Lean2Rescue crew, there was about a half inch of snow on the ground. Flurries through out the day did not amount to much. We relocated 132 6"x6" 12' very heavy timbers from a swamp where they were dropped by helicopter, about a hundred yards to the trail near the site of the old washed out bridge.

8 December, same crew hauling materials into Biesmeyer Leanto along Gulf Brook, about the same half inch of snow. The best conditions for both wheeled carts and pulks, but definitely not skis.

Just west of the Adirondacks, the Breia ski trails are building their base with about an inch and and a half of fresh snow. Non-rocky meadow skiing would be possible in the southern Tug Hill area. A little more lake effect and these trails will be a go.

yellowcanoe 12-08-2013 08:01 PM

It would be great if this thread could be a sticky at least for the winter season.

I am Placid bound early in January. Though I will stay with a local, any info is nice.

ADK123 12-08-2013 10:34 PM

I was in the southern adirondacks today - Kane Mountain area. Brought my skis hoping to do some skiing in the woods, but only a couple of inches on the ground.

fvrwld 12-08-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowcanoe (Post 210705)
It would be great if this thread could be a sticky at least for the winter season.

Great idea. :thumbs:

Done.

Justin 12-09-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvrwld (Post 210719)
Great idea. :thumbs:

Agreed, a good thread that can be very useful. :thumbs:
Adding a photo or two might also be helpful. :)

l'oiseau 12-09-2013 01:56 PM

Thank you friends.

Any info is good IMO.

nutmeg creeker 12-09-2013 05:09 PM

Glad to see this thread, and converted into a "sticky" no less. Too bad that right now all of the snow seems to be somewhere else.:mad:

ADK123 12-12-2013 10:58 AM

2 feet of snow fell in Old Forge last night with more expected to fall this evening!

St.Regis 12-12-2013 03:13 PM

Snow Ridge has 3 to 4' of brand new snow.

l'oiseau 12-13-2013 12:13 PM

Thanks for the updates. Keep them coming.

Looks like I won't be able to enjoy these new snows this weekend but we may get some locally I will be able to play in.

Telemarkmike 12-13-2013 11:27 PM

Skied today from North Point Road to Lower Sargent Pond (just west of Blue Mountain Lake). There was about a foot of new snow and the skiing was great.

I left Schroon Lake where there was about 5" of snow and drove west on Route 28. As I got west of Indian Lake, the snow got much deeper.

Telemarkmike 12-13-2013 11:38 PM

Great Data on Snow Depth
 
Here are some great sites I use to check on snow depth. I have found them to be very good.

This one is great if you use Google Earth:

http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/earth/

Click on the most recent day for a snow analysis overlay and it will open up a KML file in Google Earth as a temporary layer. You can select snow depth as one of the choices. You can zoom anywhere in the US.


If you find this too complicated, or don't use Google Earth, check this snow cover site on Intellicast:

http://www.intellicast.com/Travel/We...now/Cover.aspx

You can click pan and zoom to go anywhere in the US. I have found both to be pretty accurate. I used them today with good results. :)

l'oiseau 12-14-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telemarkmike (Post 210985)
Skied today from North Point Road to Lower Sargent Pond (just west of Blue Mountain Lake). There was about a foot of new snow and the skiing was great.

A little OT but how was the condition of the trail and what would you say the difficulty i.e. how much climbing, descents, etc?

Telemarkmike 12-14-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by l'oiseau (Post 210999)
A little OT but how was the condition of the trail and what would you say the difficulty i.e. how much climbing, descents, etc?

Not difficult in terms of ascent. Only 500 vertical all day. A couple downed trees to go over or around. It is marked as a snowmobile trail, so if they get out there, that will ruin the skiing.

Adk Keith 12-16-2013 01:00 PM

Near North Creek we got about 10".

We heard some whomphing while snowshoeing my xc trails. Usually means an unstable layer. Might be a good idea to do some test pits if you're skiing slides.

Have fun, Be careful. :thumbs:

St.Regis 12-16-2013 01:44 PM

Here's another snow depth map

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/nerfc/graphi...now_depth.html

Frhill 12-19-2013 08:13 AM

There is great skiing in the Saranac Lake area. The recent storm dropped 8-10" and conditions are good. The base was a little thin, so use caution in the woods and going down hills, but the rock skis can be put away.

l'oiseau 12-23-2013 10:36 AM

Any news from this past weekend? I'm guessing most areas lost their snow.

Alpine1 12-23-2013 11:20 AM

We still have 1' of snow on the ground in the village of Old Forge.
BC ski conditions after the freeze will be excellent once it snows again.

Commissionpoint 12-23-2013 12:01 PM

Four wet inches on the ground here on Diamond Point. Still melting.

Bob K 12-27-2013 06:42 PM

Benson toward Rock Lake XC ski 12/27/13
 
Two of us skied thru the new 5+ over the remaining base from the earlier dumping but made it only 2 miles in. The last prior sign-in was Thurs 12/19 and some track could be seen up until we turned abound. With the melt off pre-Christmas, numerous tricky water crossings and two brief ski removals it was slow going. Coverage over rocks only marginal with some evident and often limited skiable path. Until more packed snow, Id recommend metal edge skis and something wider than touring skis.

Not long after the bridge over W Stony Creek the trail up thru a gully was not skiable for many yards as there were no good snow bridges and some running water. The weather however was perfect high 20s, no wind, partial sunshine & some flurries. First mile up/down to the bank of the creek best stretch to ski, but maneuvering required in a few spots.

Lapland Lake XC center had primo conditions (per my daughter) and had a good crowd. We saw no one else on the N-P trail. 6-8 off trail. Packed trail only a few inches deep and not well set.

Wldrns 12-27-2013 08:40 PM

Good XC on the BREIA trails and off trail in the woods near Boonville yesterday and today. Tug Hill has many inches of fluffy new snow over a deep hard older base.

Tick Magnet 12-28-2013 07:22 PM

Up in the Brant Lake area today, 2"-4" granular in the woods, icy crust on the snowmobile trails. Not ideal for skiing although good for walking.

ADK123 12-29-2013 09:41 AM

Ice topped with about 2 inches of snow up in the Blue Mtn. Lake area yesterday. Didn't even bring my skis, didn't want to listen to them complain. Rain started while on my way out of the woods.


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