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Old 09-21-2021, 03:55 PM   #1
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Hudson River Skin Irritation?

Probably a long shot but… By any chance has anyone here ever noticed if they got a skin irritation within a day or two after swimming in the Hudson River, particularly in the Adirondacks, or more specifically in the Hudson Gorge region? Or any body of water for that matter?
This is the second time I developed a rash (or fungal infection?) after swimming in the gorge region near Blue Ledge. I know there is some poison ivy in that region, which I saw and was careful to avoid but somehow still ended up with some sort of funk on my skin in various locations. Just wondering if maybe it could be some kind of reaction to the water in that area for some reason..?
Is it possible the sand in that region is saturated with urushoil from the thick patches of poison ivy along the shore in that region and is carried downstream in the water?
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Old 09-21-2021, 05:19 PM   #2
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I swim in the Hudson in or near the gorge at least 2x yr. Never had a problem. I enjoy swimming in the Hudson multiple places S of there too, above Glens Falls. Also, no problem.
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:28 PM   #3
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Is the rash everywhere you got wet? Or is it contained?

If it's contained I bet you got into something thrashing around in the bush, if it's all over - I have no idea.

I'd doubt with the amount of flow in the Hudson any toxin would really hang around for long.
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:41 PM   #4
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I swim in the Hudson in or near the gorge at least 2x yr. Never had a problem. I enjoy swimming in the Hudson multiple places S of there too, above Glens Falls. Also, no problem.
Thanks Bob, good to know.

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Is the rash everywhere you got wet? Or is it contained?

If it's contained I bet you got into something thrashing around in the bush, if it's all over - I have no idea.

I'd doubt with the amount of flow in the Hudson any toxin would really hang around for long.
Itís pretty much all over my body. It was pretty warm out and I was sweating a lot, and it felt good to cool off in the river, and to splash the water all over my me. I definitely recognized the poison ivy patches nearby, and did my best to avoid them, but now I have a good rash here 2 days later. Iíve had poison ivy countless times throughout my life, havenít had it this bad since I was a little kid. Usually it lasts for only a few days or so, so hopefully Iíll be turning the corner back to normal within the next day or two. If not Iíll be sure to check with Doc.
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:54 PM   #5
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Could be "duck itch" or swimmers itch.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...20warm%20water.
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:10 PM   #6
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Could be "duck itch" or swimmers itch.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...20warm%20water.
Thank you.
And thankfully my legs don’t look that bad. But oddly enough my chest & stomach area are most affected.
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:40 PM   #7
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I don't know a lot about poison ivy, it doesn't seem to affect me but I also know that the oils can really spread all over the skin if you're rubbing it around. My BIL got into some in his garden and didn't know what it was, pulled it out without gloves, then touched around his eyes other parts of his body and broke out there.

So maybe you got some on your hands at some point and then spread it around when you were splashing and washing yourself?
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:51 PM   #8
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I don't know a lot about poison ivy, it doesn't seem to affect me but I also know that the oils can really spread all over the skin if you're rubbing it around. My BIL got into some in his garden and didn't know what it was, pulled it out without gloves, then touched around his eyes other parts of his body and broke out there.

So maybe you got some on your hands at some point and then spread it around when you were splashing and washing yourself?
Definitely very possible, as I’ve always been very receptive to poison ivy ever since I was a little kid. As the cliche goes, If I even look at it I’ll break out in a rash so to speak lol. Maybe that’s all it takes, and splashing around in the water trying to wash myself off didn’t help, but in fact made it worse. Lesson learned!
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:54 PM   #9
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No idea. Hope you feel better man...

I think if you're really sensitive best to stay away though - there may be old oils on the rocks and soils around where it is as well (although that's a WAG). Those river riparian areas can be a real hazard for some because of it.
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:27 PM   #10
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Sounds like swimmers itch to me
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:42 PM   #11
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Seriously, those oils can hang around a loooonngg time.
I too seem to attract poison ivy... In the warmer seasons, I might go a few weeks between wearing socks, well, I once got some on my ankle, even though I was wearing socks. A month later, after the first rash cleared up, I got it again, even though I was nowhere near any poison ivy, it was still in my socks, even after they were washed!!

Since your stuff is localized, my guess is poison ivy from an indirect contact. I've read that even years dead poison ivy vines can affect some people. That would be me, and maybe you too.
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:54 PM   #12
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From what Iím reading, swimmers itch I guess is more associated with ponds or lakes, or even sea water. I havenít seen much about it in rivers, but I guess could still be possible. I just found it odd that both times I ďcooled offĒ in the Hudson River in this area I ended up with itchy patches of rash on my body that didnít necessarily come in any direct contact with the poison ivy that I had recognized nearby and did my best to avoid.
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:21 PM   #13
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The flow rate in the Hudson there is high & steady. Hard to think of some toxic hanging out.

I recall that the trail most use to BL is a bit overgrown particularly near the river. I wonder if you picked it up along the way. I'm one of the lucky people who seem not to get poison ivy/oak/sumac in spite of exposure to it.
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Old 09-22-2021, 06:52 AM   #14
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Think back on what you had to eat and drink. Anything outside your normal diet could be a possibility. Also, there are many plant allergens besides the obvious ones like poison ivy
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Old 09-22-2021, 07:46 AM   #15
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it's a llittle late in the season, but wild parsnip is really nasty stuff when it is actively growing. Very common along roadsides and is a relative of giant hogweed. Most of it is dry now, but I have seen some fresh late season growth. I am particularly susceptable to the stuff and give it all a wide passage.

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Old 09-22-2021, 08:20 AM   #16
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Thanks guys. Nothing unusual in what I ate or drank, and I donít recall seeing anything that resembles the wild parsnip, but that is good information to know. Itís a bit of a mystery I guess. I even have some spots on my back where I canít even reach.
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Old 09-22-2021, 09:13 AM   #17
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Was your dog with you? A friend who is sensitive to poison ivy has gotten it several times by transfer from the dog. Dog can have the oil on fur, transfer to car seat, backpack, etc., it can show up anywhere.
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Old 09-22-2021, 11:04 AM   #18
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No dog.
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Old 09-24-2021, 07:06 AM   #19
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Ok I think I know what it was. My campfire.
I had a small stick fire during the evening and in the morning to cook some food, and I gathered dead wood along the shore which no doubt had probably been in contact with the poison ivy at one point or another, and the smoke from the fire is what infected my skin. I do recall reading somewhere that you can be infected from poison ivy smoke, and you can even breath it in which can affect your lungs. Thankfully that did not happen, but I did have my shirt off for a while because it was quite warm out, which probably explains why I have the rash all over my chest and on my back. Doh!
Live and learn. Needless to say I wonít be visiting that area again anytime soon.
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Old 09-24-2021, 07:34 AM   #20
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That's crazy - I would have never thought you could get poison ivy from your campfire!
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