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Old 08-27-2020, 09:46 AM   #1
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Under the fast lanes

Anywhere that still carries TCD's book Life under the fast lane.

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Old 08-27-2020, 12:23 PM   #2
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Have you checked the Mountaineer?
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Old 08-27-2020, 12:34 PM   #3
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Asking for a friend who just moved to N Hudson,he checked there with no luck.
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Old 08-27-2020, 06:41 PM   #4
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I bought it at Mountaineer last year. Might try the HPIC or the ADK store in Lake George.
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Old 08-27-2020, 10:03 PM   #5
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Mountaineer still has a few copies.

I don't plan on another printing - it was a lot of work, and I had to do it all myself.

A few areas have seen some changes. The forest road to the Wyman Hill and Squaw Mountain culverts has been "improved" as part of the State "Frontiertown trail" and now looks a little different, although in general the river crossings and culverts are the same.

Also, Dirgylot Hill has been developed with some state signage. There may be other changes since 2010, when I did the research for this.

Maybe next year, if I have time and motivation, I may put together a "supplement" and post it here just to capture the updates.
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Old 08-29-2020, 07:25 PM   #6
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You might also find a copy at the Crossroads General Store at exit 25.
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Old 09-01-2020, 01:21 PM   #7
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Also, the Lindsay Brook access has changed considerably due to beaver activity- the old road bed is underwater for what appears to be at least a 10th of a mile. Getting around it, as I understand it, requires a true bushwhack plus a ford of the Schroon River.

This was once a marked and maintained DEC trail as far as the Northway underpass but the trail has now been fully abandoned by the DEC.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:28 PM   #8
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Thanks, DSettahr. Yes, beavers have inundated the original route, as they do routinely. And my book describes the best alternative to cross the river and bushwhack to join the original route.

And yes, the original route has been abandoned by the state. The old "trail closed" sign has even been removed. But hope remains: The Hammond Pond Wild Forest UMP includes a plan to build a new route to the Lindsay Brook culvert, as a branch trail from the climber's path to the Deadwater cliffs. I have volunteered to help with this, when DEC is ready to do it, as I am quite familiar with the terrain.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:50 PM   #9
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I think any new trail from the Deadwater area to the Northway should follow the old Sharp roadbed which Abraham Sharp made to sell veggies to the workers at Deadwater. It goes from the old village of Deadwater to Gui Pond and then passes the remains of Abraham Sharp's farm...Fun from a history point of view and pretty direct...
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Old 09-01-2020, 07:22 PM   #10
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Hi Festus,

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Trails that make use of old road beds are often better graded and better drained, and hold up better than trails that are "newly carved" through the woods.

Can you post a map showing where that old roadbed runs?

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Old 09-03-2020, 11:38 AM   #11
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Hi Festus,

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Trails that make use of old road beds are often better graded and better drained, and hold up better than trails that are "newly carved" through the woods.

Can you post a map showing where that old roadbed runs?

Thanks.

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I'd love to see that also.
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Old 10-27-2021, 12:51 PM   #12
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Has anyone had any luck finding a copy?
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Old 10-27-2021, 01:19 PM   #13
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The book has been out of print for a few years now. I doubt there are very many, if any copies remaining at the couple retail outlets that carried it. Only 200 copies were printed. Most were sold through The Mountaineer. I recall that I did wholesale a few copies to Crossroads (near exit 25). Maybe ask them if they have any left?

This book was always intended for a narrow audience, so it was not picked up for publication by ADK or other publishers. Self-publishing is a ton of work, and an unprofitable "labor of love." (When it was all done I actually lost a small (inconsequential) amount of money on the project.)

So I don't plan another printing, as I said upthread.

If a publisher wanted to pick this up and print a second edition, I would help with the field research, and I would sell them the original manuscript. That's a pretty unlikely scenario, though...
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Old 10-27-2021, 08:19 PM   #14
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Yeah sadly guidebooks seem to be becoming a thing of the past. My own contributions to the “Discover” series in the North Hudson area never even got published. After all, who needs to buy a guidebook these days when you have the internet, hiking related apps, and countless hiking & bushwhacking related Facebook groups.
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Old 10-27-2021, 08:51 PM   #15
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Still use mine...

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Old 10-28-2021, 03:36 PM   #16
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I use mine all the time. Always have, always will.
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Old 10-28-2021, 04:03 PM   #17
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And unfortunately, information gained through hiking "apps" and especially social media is often suspect at best in it's accuracy. I encountered a confused group a few weeks ago at Upper Works; they indicated that they'd thought that they could drive to Lake Colden and start hiking there. They were also under the impression that Cliff would be an "easy afternoon hike" from Lake Colden. All of this they'd determined with the aid of a certain hiking app that rhymes with "small fails."

Guidebooks aren't always 100% accurate but usually the level of research that has gone into them guarantees that they will be on point far more often than not.

TCD- have you thought about making Under the Fast Lane available for online purchase in the epub file format? That would make it accessible to anyone with an e-reader or a smart phone.

BTW, if anyone wants a "gently used" canoe, there's an old Coleman canoe wrapped around a tree on the Schroon River on the way to the access culvert for Big Marsh Pond and the North Hudson Dome.
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Old 10-28-2021, 06:53 PM   #18
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Nice collection.

I had a number of the older ADK books with maps but unfortunately lost a great deal of them in a camp sale and since have invested in the NG series (actually did some time ago).

I still have a few archaic guide books that are out of date but I simply write in them to my actual boots on ground knowledge.

I had intentions at one time of making photo diaries, etc, of various campsites, points of interest, blah, blah but I never had the took enough photos (or any) and never had the dedication to finish the project.

It's probably trivial relative to information online, but it's nice to be able at least reuse your old info.
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Old 10-28-2021, 07:43 PM   #19
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Agreed. I still love my collection of guidebooks also, but there is also a part of me that is happy that certain areas of the Adirondacks are not really publicized much, and are not really talked about over the internet. However that list seems to be dwindling significantly over the past several years.
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Old 10-28-2021, 08:50 PM   #20
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I had intentions at one time of making photo diaries, etc, of various campsites, points of interest, blah, blah but I never had the took enough photos (or any) and never had the dedication to finish the project.

It's probably trivial relative to information online, but it's nice to be able at least reuse your old info.
montcalm,
If you recall, I was asking the other week about archiving old threads, this is exactly why.

Justin,
I mostly agree with you, but some of the places I go and post about are of little interest to the masses.
There are other trips that I purposely do not publicize.

And those guidebooks, worth their weight in gold, or maybe even bitcoins.
Well researched and informative, definitely a great resource.
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