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Old 09-14-2020, 09:48 PM   #1
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Hinckley Day Use Area Proposal to add 150 Campsites

I just noticed that the Hinckley Day Use Area has a Draft UMP to add 150 campsites.

The draft UMP can be found here: https://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/113214.html

Comment period ends October 2nd, 2020.

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Old 09-15-2020, 07:27 PM   #2
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Not really sure how I feel about this. It doesn't seem altogether bad, but it does seem like an awful lot of money for something that won't sustain that investment.
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:58 PM   #3
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Not really sure how I feel about this. It doesn't seem altogether bad, but it does seem like an awful lot of money for something that won't sustain that investment.
I agree. For 5000 visitors a year, $5 million for roads, comfort stations, a new supervisor cabin and staff housing. Not to mention the legacy costs associated with that type of infrastructure.
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:02 PM   #4
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Yeah, thinking more about this I'd like to see them just update/repair the existing infrastructure there and add 25-50 sites and see how that goes.
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:14 AM   #5
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Yeah, thinking more about this I'd like to see them just update/repair the existing infrastructure there and add 25-50 sites and see how that goes.
Adding to my own thoughts...

Perhaps they just update the existing bath house to accommodate campers and build one or two bathrooms for the few sites I suggested.

They could probably do this for 1/4, or less of the budget they suggested. If it becomes popular, then add on in future years.

Seems like this proposal is just throwing everything out there and seeing what sticks. I'll surely be writing a letter.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:53 PM   #6
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This is a good spot for a campground. My wife and I are already planning to stay there as soon as it opens and visit surround areas.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:22 AM   #7
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I agree. For 5000 visitors a year, $5 million for roads, comfort stations, a new supervisor cabin and staff housing. Not to mention the legacy costs associated with that type of infrastructure.
I don’t know how the budgets of state campgrounds work out, but is there no chance the come out ahead?

I like the idea, I’m usually of the mindset that “the state spends TONS of money on things and will continue to do so, so any money that goes towards things I find valuable is a good thing”

Translation- any money towards the Adirondacks is better then spending it on something downstate.
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Old 09-19-2020, 09:01 AM   #8
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So here's the deal - the state does subsidize a ton of things. That's how our government(s) work, it's a mix of socialism and capitalism. Don't sweat the details of that too much.

If you like the idea, you have every right to support it. It's generally meant to support people in the Rome/Utica area.

I wouldn't rationalize it like "it's better than spending downstate", because that's not really how it works. Plus that sounds very us vs them... and again, not how social programs should work.

Oh, and to answer your question - there's little chance it will make money at 150 campsites, especially considering the very high initial capital investment. But really that shouldn't be the deciding factor - almost all our campgrounds, ski resorts, Olympic facilities are highly subsidized. It's just a fact of whether you support those things, or not.
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