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Old 01-07-2020, 05:58 PM   #1
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Hold my beer

Rangers and Encon must have loved this one...

Wilderness Rescue: On Dec. 31 at 2:45 p.m., DEC's Ray Brook Dispatch received a call from Franklin County 911 reporting that the Tupper Lake EMS squad was dispatched to site 95 of the Fish Creek Campground regarding a 19-year-old male from Lake Clear with a leg injury. Forest Ranger Pete Evans and Environmental Conservation Police Officer Nate Favreau responded to the scene. Upon his arrival, Officer Favreau met with New York State Police and found that the injury was the result of an accident involving a jet sled being pulled behind a pick-up truck. The operator lost traction due to icy road conditions, causing the truck to lurch. The sled then hit a tree and ejected the subject, causing an upper leg injury. The man was taken by Tupper Lake EMS to seek further medical assistance. All units were clear from the scene at 4:09 p.m.
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:46 PM   #2
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Well duh!
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:35 PM   #3
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Why not wait till Buttermilk Falls freezes over and come down it with a Paddle Board?
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:27 AM   #4
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That's too bad , keep us updated on how the tree is doing .
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Old 01-08-2020, 11:20 AM   #5
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Say what you want about deregulation but there are times when insurance companies should be allowed to just say no we’re not covering that
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Old 01-08-2020, 11:30 AM   #6
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Maybe Farmers would, they'd make another funny commercial out of it. Unfortunately, many people would laugh.

How about this one?
"Wilderness Search and Rescue: On Jan. 2, Forest Rangers assisted Albany County Sheriff's Deputies and State Park Police with a search for a missing 25-year-old man from Albany who was dropped off at Thacher State Park by a rideshare vehicle on New Year's Eve at approximately 11 p.m. Forest Rangers and deputies split up into teams to search below the escarpment trail, near the visitor's center and the overlook parking lot. A crew of Sheriff's deputies located the man conscious and alert but unable to move due to his injuries. Utilizing various rope rescue system techniques, the man was successfully rescued from the woods below the cliff, carried to a staged helicopter, and flown to a local hospital. "

Maybe not the best idea for Happy New Years.
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Old 01-08-2020, 04:34 PM   #7
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How about this one?
"Wilderness Search and Rescue: On Jan. 2, Forest Rangers assisted Albany County Sheriff's Deputies and State Park Police with a search for a missing 25-year-old man from Albany who was dropped off at Thacher State Park
That one is not so funny. There was precedent for real concern at that location. Two years ago a man went missing there and I was on a multiple day unsuccessful SAR mission looking for him. Turned out to be, as was suspected, a determined suicide. His body was not found until four months later amongst the rocks below a cliff.
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Old 01-09-2020, 10:46 AM   #8
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I'm not laughing. But there must be some way of educating people that there are places you do NOT go to in the dark to climb, and it does not sound like that was a consideration here. Or he was also trying to commit suicide and didn't make it that far. At any rate he put a lot of dedicated people in jeopardy on a night when they would likely much rather been by the fire with family and friends.

And thank you for your service.
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Old 01-09-2020, 10:16 PM   #9
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I'm not laughing. But there must be some way of educating people that there are places you do NOT go to in the dark to climb, and it does not sound like that was a consideration here. Or he was also trying to commit suicide and didn't make it that far. At any rate he put a lot of dedicated people in jeopardy on a night when they would likely much rather been by the fire with family and friends.

And thank you for your service.
That particular individual had a history of mental health issues, and did admit to trying to harm himself, this was no accident.
A person with enough determination will do themselves in...

The Uber driver would be the one that needs the instruction, leaving a clearly distraught individual on a cliff overlook at night, in the winter, that is clearly not prepared for a night time hike.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:46 AM   #10
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The Uber driver would be the one that needs the instruction, leaving a clearly distraught individual on a cliff overlook at night, in the winter, that is clearly not prepared for a night time hike.
Just wondering , what is the Uber driver supposed to do ?
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Old 01-10-2020, 10:46 AM   #11
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I have a hard time believing that here in NYS, the great granny state, a dangerous area was open to the public at night. The Uber driver ought to know the area he is driving in and not let someone off in a closed area, or at least attempt to dissuade an individual insisting on accessing a closed or dangerous area, and maybe should have notified authorities (or did, but the article doesn't indicate that the individual had mental health issues, either. It sounds like an Xer out on a lark for New Years.)
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Old 01-11-2020, 04:19 PM   #12
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I have a hard time believing that here in NYS, the great granny state, a dangerous area was open to the public at night. The Uber driver ought to know the area he is driving in and not let someone off in a closed area, or at least attempt to dissuade an individual insisting on accessing a closed or dangerous area, and maybe should have notified authorities (or did, but the article doesn't indicate that the individual had mental health issues, either. It sounds like an Xer out on a lark for New Years.)
As far as I know, the park is closed after dusk.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:44 AM   #13
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Just wondering , what is the Uber driver supposed to do ?
How about a quick phone call to authorities before leaving the drop off?
That may not have prevented the leap, but at least shortened the time before a rescue
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:05 AM   #14
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Suppositions about the Uber driver?
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As far as I know, the park is closed after dusk.
It's technically closed, but it's not physically closed. There is no gate on the road that passes through the park. it's "closed" in the sense that the visitors center is closed, and the police might investigate any parked cars, but anyone can drive through the park at any time.

because the road passes straight through the park, it gets quite a bit of use just as a regular road. they couldn't easily block the park off.
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Old 01-16-2020, 11:42 AM   #16
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It's technically closed, but it's not physically closed. There is no gate on the road that passes through the park. it's "closed" in the sense that the visitors center is closed, and the police might investigate any parked cars, but anyone can drive through the park at any time.

because the road passes straight through the park, it gets quite a bit of use just as a regular road. they couldn't easily block the park off.
Right - the road is a public roadway so that doesn't close, but once anyone left the roadway and entered the actual park properties they were violating the rules, as the Park site says:
>> The park is open year round, 7am until sunset. <<
And almost midnight is well past sunset.
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Just wondering , what is the Uber driver supposed to do ?
In these days of Lawyers taking on frivolous lawsuits and jury's giving out obscene awards, the Uber driver should have covered his ass.
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:09 PM   #18
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In these days of Lawyers taking on frivolous lawsuits and jury's giving out obscene awards, the Uber driver should have covered his ass.
Well , I asked one of the posters on the thread if he knew for sure if the driver did or did not contact the authorities , because somehow they were able to trace the individual to using a ride share vehicle . The question went unanswered for weeks so I deleted it to not put the poster on the spot , and I thought , it's really none of my business .

I really question whether this thread shouldn't be deleted , out of respect to the person's privacy .
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:44 PM   #19
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Well , I asked one of the posters on the thread if he knew for sure if the driver did or did not contact the authorities , because somehow they were able to trace the individual to using a ride share vehicle . The question went unanswered for weeks so I deleted it to not put the poster on the spot , and I thought , it's really none of my business .

I really question whether this thread shouldn't be deleted , out of respect to the person's privacy .
It was in the ranger report. And my original post was about a jet sled being pulled behind a pick-up truck, so it kinda morphed a little...It was a dead thread for quite a while until electbc resurrected it.
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