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Old 03-28-2020, 04:34 PM   #1
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Where to go?

The tone on the conference call Friday left one with the distinct possibility that some un-requested time off might be around the corner.

If that were to suddenly become reality (and you had a brand new canoe in the rafters that, you know, is talking to you) what flat water options are there up in the Tupper/Saranac area?

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Old 03-28-2020, 04:42 PM   #2
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Travel isn't advised in NY.
Ice should be on many ponds.
Tupper Lake, which is really river, is big and flat.

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Old 03-28-2020, 05:47 PM   #3
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Stay Home

Please stay home. The folks of the North Country would greatly appreciate it. You'll have a good long time to enjoy the new boat, when this is over with.
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:24 PM   #4
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Lakes and ponds are all still frozen here , some may open in 10 days but 2 weeks is a better guess.
That said, the state , all the countys and towns are asking that you please stay home for a while. You'll be camping in wet snow or if your looking for a hotel pretty much Everything is closed. If your from anywhere south of the Adks pretty much all the water should be open.
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Old 03-28-2020, 11:01 PM   #5
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I was at a couple of ponds at 1000' and 1200' and they are locked up solid. Temps still below freezing at night.

Yes, please stay home. Maybe tie some flies or make a new rod. Hopefully, things will be better by May at which time the ice should be out.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:24 AM   #6
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Thank you for the replies - a couple of things

We should all do our best to get past this current situation. I travel the state for a living - the last 2 weeks I have been home.

I always look for common sense ways to handle things - boiler-plate responses to any issue made by the constabulary are things I pay attention to. But things are not always black and white.

I can go to many places right now that are deemed essential. My local bike shop has been deemed essential. However, I am staying home as much as possible and have minimized interaction by combining trips etc.

I would think that my SOP of travelling at nite, stopping once to fill my tank via cc, arriving at the put in at 3 am. shoving off at 6 am and paddling back in and not seeing or being around anyone would be a pretty save way to go. I would think this would be better than going to the grocery store, etc.

On this board there are an awful lot of current trip reports from people - many of them from the North Country. We are told that getting outside with fresh air is good - just stay away from people. What provides the better level of caring to our fellow citizens - making a minimum number of trips in a local community with human interaction or heading out away from anyone for a few days?

If I wanted to ensure I don't get this thing - or give it to anyone else - I think burying myself in the back country would be good.
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:44 AM   #7
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SO lets say you have it, but like everyone else you won't know for a few days. As you drive north you leave viri on the Credit Card reader at the gas station. You leave it on the pen and register in the sign in booth. You carry your boat back in and make camp, and then 2 days later, you become symptomatic, and are now incapacitated in the middle of nowhwhere. I came down with some odd virus a few years back while on a day trip to Lost Pond in the Moose River Plains, an easy hour on the dirt road and a mile hike back in. By the time we packed out, it was all I could do to get my pack back on and gather my fishing tackle and make the walk back to the car, and I was out like a light for most of the ride back to Eagle Bay. At the camp, I retired to the front porch couch, and I was still there two days later when my wife hauled me to the med center at Old Forge, which sent me back to the couch for another two days when this virus cleared. I can't imagine what that would have been like if I was camped alone back there. Yes, it is boring staying home, but IF something goes wrong on your little trip, a whole lot of first responders may be in greater danger trying to get you out. A lot of the folks who are reporting on this after they get over it say it hits harder than anything they've had, a backpackers tent and a sleeping bag may not be the best place to "convalesce."
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:49 AM   #8
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I should add that New York is under a State of Emergency, so the boiler plate response is to follow the instructions of the authorities, and their instruction is to stay at home. The fact that businesses are open does not mean you are free to go "browsing," If you rely on your bicycle for transportation to the grocery store and broke a derailer, you can go and get a replacement or repair, but except for essential trips we are ordered in NYS to STAY HOME.
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Old 03-29-2020, 08:31 AM   #9
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Yes, Lewis County, and the Town of Webb in Herkimer County have issued warnings to people who have recreational or second homes or camps, not to come. Other northern counties will probably follow suit.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:04 AM   #10
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Yes, Lewis County, and the Town of Webb in Herkimer County have issued warnings to people who have recreational or second homes or camps, not to come. Other northern counties will probably follow suit.
That's happening to late as NY City people flee...have fled. A friend in Wilmington says record grocery and liquor sales going on from the influx.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:29 AM   #11
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As a person once said "This is not open for discussion" Keep your possibly "disease carrying butt" out of my neck of the woods and stay home. 2 weeks ago the gear shop I work in was seeing people fleeing down/out of state to the summer homes coming in with no protection, etc and trying to buy up anything they could think of for their "Hunkered down upstate" escape. I wonder how many "natives" got exposed or now have the virus as a result? Hate to be so blunt ,but some people have a hard time comprehending being told "NO". A big hearty THANK YOU from a native Adirondacker
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Old 03-29-2020, 10:47 AM   #12
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As a person once said "This is not open for discussion" Keep your possibly "disease carrying butt" out of my neck of the woods and stay home. 2 weeks ago the gear shop I work in was seeing people fleeing down/out of state to the summer homes coming in with no protection, etc and trying to buy up anything they could think of for their "Hunkered down upstate" escape. I wonder how many "natives" got exposed or now have the virus as a result? Hate to be so blunt ,but some people have a hard time comprehending being told "NO". A big hearty THANK YOU from a native Adirondacker
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:07 PM   #13
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As of last night, Lewis County (my home county) was one of only three counties in NYS to have zero cases so far. Just now I looked and found that it is showing two cases for the first time. I fear for the large Amish population who often park their buggies outside of Walmart. I think there are probably plenty of "outsiders" coming into the area from the south who make their first stop for supplies at Walmart. I know that the summer seasonal resident camps around a couple of lakes in northern Oneida County are seeing very early season occupants these days.
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Old 03-29-2020, 09:52 PM   #14
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It’s one thing to evacuate if a hurricane is coming. For years people have been essentially programmed to "get when the getting is good." That time has long since past.
I hope those who violated the rules will have fun with the black flies.
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Old 03-30-2020, 07:17 AM   #15
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I live on both sides of this issue. Where I live (and now shelter in place) in Vermont, we have (and our economy depends upon) many out-of-state second home owners. But, many of them are from CT/metro NY/Boston. We had a crush of folks arrive in early March when things started to ramp up, and the ones I know have stayed put and behaved (unlike the beachgoers in FL and NJ and other places), though it has strained local grocers, as every day was like a winter Friday or Saturday afternoon as far as demand. But, they are keeping restaurants operating (takeout), and (knock on wood) there has been no spike in infections locally.
On the other hand, we have a family camp in the southern ADKs that I would love to visit now that I have time to do so. I can make the trip on a tank of gas and could bring provisions and stay away from all folks, but I am resisting the urge...easy to do with ice still on the lake and no insulation in camp; will be harder to resist once weather improves.
In any case, I am finding new hikes around here, helping a local sugarmaker pull taps (talk about social distancing...), and trying to not look at the news too much.
Stay safe folks, stay home (or at least stay in your zip code), and wash your hands.
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:47 AM   #16
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Thank You 2505, for being considerate. Its not that "We' don't like out of staters and don't want them to support our meager little economies, just now is not a good time, Stay home ,Its still gonna look the same when things calm down. Thank you
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Old 03-30-2020, 08:59 AM   #17
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My pleasure. Now, you guys lucky enough to be "in country": Please get out and paddle or hike and post photos, please, so I can live vicariously through you for the time being.
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Old 03-30-2020, 10:28 AM   #18
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Hang in There, Mountainman Outdoor Supply is doing online sales, for kayaks,canoes,SUP's and gear, on our online store. www.mountainmanoutdoorsupply.com. Please feel free to give us a look . We are posting on Instagram signup for a shot at a $25 gift card. Thanks again everyone for your understanding and support in these tough times.We're all gonna be ok
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Old 03-30-2020, 12:33 PM   #19
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A few other things to keep in mind:

The DEC has already announced that some rangers are being diverted from their normal duties to assist in COVID-19-related efforts. As the infection continues to spread- and especially as it continues to infect the ranks of regular police agencies across the state- it is conceivable that rangers may find themselves getting re-assigned in increasing numbers in the upcoming weeks. The result of this is that if something were to happen to you on a backcountry trip, there may be fewer resources available to assist in getting you out quickly and safely.

On top of that, there's no question that any significant rescue effort is very much going to be anything but "social distancing." Not only are you putting yourself at risk should that scenario occur as a result of your decision to head into the backcountry, but you're putting each and every rescuer at risk also.

And there's a number of other ways your decision to travel could cause unintended problems. What if your car breaks down? Or you get into an accident while driving? These too are situations in which those who come to your aid will do so at the expense of their own social distancing.

To be clear, I'm not firmly in the "stay at home at all costs" camp, but I do think that anyone who travels any significant distance to partake in backcountry recreation in the Adirondacks is adhering to questionable ethics at best.

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Old 03-30-2020, 02:06 PM   #20
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Totally agree with the travel distance, every spring and autumn I come down from Canada to do some camping, hiking maybe a spot of fishing. I will not be coming down in early May this year for exactly the reasons already stated, it to much potential drain on local resources if something goes wrong (never has yet, but that is besides the point). The travel would be non essential and I would likely get turned away at the border assuming the restrictions are still in place.

What all be interesting will be how normally high use areas may get a chance to recover for an extra few months.
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